That’s delusional. She’s not going to give Sanders the VP slot because he does well versus Trump in a debate. I don’t think there’s any way he’s getting that but if he debates Trump at all she’ll want Sanders shot not rewarded for his debate skills.
It’s calculated and cynical. But delusional… Why so?
He might not accepts. But that’s a different matter.
Bernie would crush Trump 200 points to zero.
Should be interesting to see if it gets him any closer to Hillary.
Oh, in delivery, of course Paulsen was nothing like Trump. Paulsen was deadpan, Trump is practically epileptic every time he speaks.
I was thinking more of Paulsen’s lines, the gist of which were like:
“My opponent says I know nothing of foreign policy. My opponent says I know nothing of domestic policy. My opponent says I know nothing of military strategy. My opponent says I know nothing of economics.
Picky, picky, picky.”
Calculated and cynical? It doesn’t make any sense at all. Firstly, Sanders debating Trump would be a huge slap in the face to Hillary. Presidential candidates debate each other, not one candidate vs the runner up. Secondly, candidates generally pivot to the center for the general which selecting Sanders most definitely isn’t. I know there’s a lot of talk about taking Sanders supporters along for the general but there’s only so far she can go without losing the center voters. There’s no point trying to convince the #BernieOrBust crowd, a large portion of which are unreliable voters anyway.
Somehow, I think she’ll get over it and it might make her a better person/candidate.
‘We’ve always done it this way’, is not a compelling reason to continue doing things the same way.
It’s the “Reagan Democrats” (who/what-ever those are) that might be lost. Given the demographics of the electorate, Sanders voters represent a far bigger and more important gain for the future of the democratic party.
Regular delegates are (mostly) candidate faithful. They will likely vote as their candidate directs them to.
Since neither will have more than 50% of the pledged delegates that will leave it up to the superdelegates who, by-and-large, are Clinton supporters (for now at least).
If someone is so inclined, they can look at things like voting records, the candidates websites, the interviews, and a lot of other information. Debates are interesting, but they’re not necessary. When you’re vetoing legislation, you’re not going to stand up next to Paul Ryan and debate the merits of doing so. You just issue the veto.
You’re just spewing malarkey because you want Sanders to win – we get it. I don’t need to see anyone debate someone when I’ve already seen them two or three times. What else is going to be said that hasn’t been said? Is this where the real Bernie Sanders comes out and starts going into the gutter, talking about Whitewater and Bengazi?
Anyone who cares to actually be informed about politics has more than enough information to make a choice. And seriously, you’re going to seriously use the argument that people who were more interested in watching a college football game should be given a chance to tune in now?
It’d be an uproar all right but it’d be cheering you’d be hearing.
I’d LOVE to see that debate before the general!
And what demographic would that be? White hipster voters who borrow $100,000 in adjustable interest rate loans to get an MA in social work?
Oh she’ll get over it but she sure as shit isn’t going to reward him for it.
She’s trying to win this election, not all future elections. Sanders supporters make up less than half the primary voters, the ones who really expect/need a revolution far less. After all her talk of incremental change, it is pretty ludicrous to think she’s going to choose Captain Revolution as a running mate.
I doubt very much that the debate between Sanders and Trump will turn into a mutual Hillary bashing event. This would serve only Trump. Sanders wants to draw sharp contrast between himself and who is now effectively representing the Republican party.
What would Bernie say that would get Trump crushed? Bernie’s pretty predictable. He’ll blather on about Wall Street, and you know that Bernie won’t touch the Donald’s issue of tax returns, given that Bernie keeps asking for more time to file his own financials.
Why ascribe any more importance to Bernie by debating again? He’s the runner-up, and he’s done, no matter what his supporters think. Whether Hillary wins in California or not, she’ll cruise across the finish line there.
He’s got enough platforms to damage her. There’s no point in giving him another nationally-televised one, and every motivation to ignore him as much as possible.
Oh, I completely understand why Hillary doesn’t want the debate to happen. If I were her, I’d feel very much the same way.
But this illustrates the fact that this is more about this being her time and not so much about what direction she believes the country should head. I very much doubt she’s got another attempt at becoming president in her.
Also agree. She doesn’t want him jacking up her moment in the spotlight.
Or a Sanders/Trump ticket.
I mean, if Trump doesn’t want all the work of being president, wouldn’t that sound better to him?
(Full disclosure: I’m honestly thinking of making myself a Clinton/Sanders sign for the front yard…)
Trump knows this, which is why he’s floating the idea. Still curious to see if he follows through.
I’ve wondered, too, whether or not Trump is laying a trap for Bernie. Maybe Trump uses this opportunity to talk about Bernie’s wife’s management of Burlington College and make a point about how irresponsible democratic policies are. It would be fairly easy to damage not only Bernie but the entire Democratic brand that way. Bernie Bros would be patting themselves on the back about how they courageously defended free college before a live TV audience and against the GOP nominee no less, but if Trump manages to hack away at Bernie’s vulnerabilities, it would accomplish three things: 1) It would make Bernie look like an incompetent progressive idiot; 2) It would make Clinton look like a coward for not showing up; and 3) it would quite possibly convince more mainstream republicans to get off the sidelines and support Trump after all. Trump, despite winning, is still a desperate candidate. He needs more GOP support. He could use this opportunity to get it.
Donald Trump debating the loser of the Democratic primary is nothing more than a Reality TV spectacle. A WWE promo. More evidence that this election is quickly becoming a joke. I’m all for sticking it to the man, but “we’ve always done” somethings a certain way for a reason.
Don’t misunderstand. It’s not that I’d like to see this become a three ring circus. I don’t. I simply think that Clinton is a better candidate with Sanders (or Warren, or Biden), than she is with someone safe and nondescript. Alone, Clinton lacks personality and vision.
Because that is not how people consume information.