“…vaffanculo!”*
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Not working for me. Is it this one?
Also, Urban Dictionary has a surprisingly coherent definition:
I don’t think BUPA counts, exactly, since BUPA patients still help finance the NHS via general tax contributions.
SA will almost certainly point out that in such a system he is effectively paying twice, since there is no opt-out for UHC, which is an important distinction.
That said, I had BUPA for a while. The bureaucracy wasn’t worth it, but if you are likely to need it for those rare medical situations which 1) are not actual emergencies but 2) you would like to have addressed quickly and 3) are covered by your policy, it’s not bad. Under certain circumstances you can “upgrade” to private medical facilities as well. Plus BUPA covers health assessments and other preventative care, unlike (as I understand it) most US health insurance companies.
Uh - yes it was. Anyway take some damn responsibility for your actions.
‘Books made me do it’ is probably not as strong a defence as you imagine.
And BUPA use NHS facilities and NHS financed and trained staff.
I just came in to post this very thought, and I think it bears repeating now that SA is back from his important work.
Well SA? How come these horrible things have happened to this lady BEFORE any of the provisions of the new HCR have kicked in? It seems that you have just proved to yourself that “death panels” exist NOW. (even though it seems you want to stretch the definition beyond belief to include miscommunication between different branches of government)
How does this make Palin “right”?
Honest hard-working Americans don’t care about calendars, despite what marxist community organizers want!
I realize that there is no opt-out for UHC, but I don’t think it’s an important distinction in practice. SA seems to think that in such a two-tier system, he would have to pay for the full cost of the private care he is presumably already paying for, in addition to the tax burden necessary to fund UHC.*
I am not aware of the exact details of how Bupa works in the UK, but I am a former Vhi customer here in Ireland, and I can tell you that my yearly premium in 2006 was about €500. So about €40/month to get private insurance. Thus, I see it as a disticntion without a difference.
*(I can perhaps see why he might assume as much, given that the dysfunctional US educational system does have those parents sending kids to private schools paying the full costs for both the private & public options. Here in Ireland, private secondary education works like private health insurance, where private tuition is a negligible family expense.)
I protest the fact that I must pay for the federal highway system, even if I provide my own helicopter for transportation.
BUPA is effectively subsidised by the NHS who train the staff (and employ them in their day job).
They use NHS facilities to perform procedures and the NHS for any complications that develop so it is only right and fair that BUPA patients pay their NHS share.
Just like, as been pointed out, the childless pay for schools etc etc etc.
Stop confusing him with facts. His head will explode and we’ll have to clean up the mess.
Besides it’s not as if people in such countries live longer.
Yep, that’s the one. Weird that it didn’t work for you- I pulled up that link both at home and at work. Strange.
That definition pretty much describes the anti-healthcare-reform arguments we’ve been hearing for the last year, doesn’t it?
Starving thinks Sarah has been proven right.
And you thought there wasn’t enough stupid to go around. There is clearly an infinite supply, and this thread proves it.
Wow, I am confused, because it seems to me that SA is upset that the Government ISN’T paying for this woman’s coverage. So I presume that SA solution to this is expanded governement aid and coverage. Otherwise I am at a loss as to what he feels would be the alternative here.
Apparently, this has little to do with whether the (beautiful!) woman gets her procedure paid for or not. What he seems to be trying to claim is that the recently-passed health care legislation is a Really Bad Idea because one incident, involving two agencies that are generally unrelated to any notional universal health care program (which the new legislation doesn’t address anyway) somehow shows what a universal health care system would be like. If there actually was one in the USA. Which there isn’t.
Of course, that’s just his position now. His original claim, now comprensively debunked, was that the incident in question somehow proved that Sarah Palin’s blathering about ‘death panels’ had some distant relation to reality.
OK, I’m not sure that’s any clearer. Let’s try this: Government bad, change nothing anyway.
Also, please remember that if you don’t happen to understand what exactly S_A is going on about, it’s always your failure of comprehension rather than his failure to be concise, on topic and avoid shifting the goalposts mid-thread.
Wow! He can do that? I mean, doesn’t it hurt?
Ohhhhh. “shifting”.
My bad.
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Never mind.
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What has your being a child molester got to do with the USA’s not having universal health care resulting in an American woman not receiving medical care?