Sarah Palin takes no responsibility for the Tucson shootings? Really?

I wonder if Palin would like it if someone said they should survey Sarah Palin. With a reloading surveyor tool :rolleyes:

None.

And what Democrat was shot through the head as a result of all that Palin rhetoric?

NONE.

You don’t even know who the DLC is, do you?

Sure I do. I take them at their own word. Why?

For years, American Conservatives have laughed at how Willie Horton was such a good trick played on the American left. And now that you’re forced to eat your own plate of gravel, you break down and cry. Fucking pussies.

I thought so. You don’t know who the are. Here is who the are:

They are nobody, certainly not sanctioned to speak for the Democratic Party, and none speak as Democratic nominees for federal office.

They are nobody.

I think you’re missing the real issues here.

Yes, she’s an idiot. Yes, he’s deranged. Politics will always produce inflammatory rhetoric. Nothing is going to change any of that.

Guns in the hands off any fool with cash. This fool was a known problem to the police, yet they were powerless to keep him from owning a glock. Think gun controls.

Allowing anyone to knowing spread misinformation with the intention of riling the ignorant is where hate laws come into play. It focuses the discussion on, is this or is this not, hate speach, instead of just dialing up the rhetoric on both sides.

The media is motivated by ad sales, it is in their interest to keep America polarized. And each year, it takes crazier and crazier shit to garner headlines and attention for the attention whoring politicos.

But your unfettered freedom of speech, (yet it’s illegal to shout 'fire in a crowded cinema. Hmmm, a restriction, widely recognized as wise, increases public safety and has yet to cause ‘the end of America, as we know it’), and freedom to have weapons, even nut jobs, are at the bottom of these incidents but no one wants to address that.

But do feel free to cling to those unfettered freedoms, I’m sure they’re comforting, even if Rome is falling.

Here’s Barack Obama saying, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”

Obviously he’s not advocating shooting anyone; this is just how politicians sometimes talk.

This map you linked to earlier? Because that map “targets” battleground states that Bush barely won for a presidential election. Palin’s map “targets” specific people. The DLC map doesn’t target any specific person or persons. If they had, it would be equally deplorable.

And here’s Obama taking responsibility for the comment and apologizing.

Accountability. Foreign, but important, concept.

I’ll let you in on a little secret that comes from the darkest recesses of my liberal heart of hearts.

Putting “SNIPERS WANTED” and a bulls eye on a picture of Bush is idiotic. It’s really stupid to want or need to (or even just dream to) kill in order to win an argument. I think the people who make these arguments are stupid people.

What I also think in my liberal heart of hearts is that I’m grateful that these stupid people who don’t speak for me are just stupid people on a street corner holding up a stupid sign they made, rather than being stupid people in positions of power and authority who influence other stupid people into acting stupidly.

Am I being whooshed? That article is a satire.

You really don’t think there’s a qualitative difference between a dartboard-style target over the graphic of a state, a gun sight over the photograph of a specific individual?

Seriously, I can understand your frustration with the rhetoric blaming Palin and other right wingers for this, because it’s pretty clearly bullshit. But that’s an incredibly weak and disingenuous comparison, and I’m pretty sure you know it.

Apparently, clicking on one of those bullseyes would pull up a picture of a Congressperson under the heading “Targeted Republican.” There was no bullseye over their actual faces, though.

Yes, it’s startling. Where people fail (as per this very thread) is in trying to attribute this guy to any specific rhetoric, when his beliefs aren’t attributable to any damn thing in the dimensions we are familiar with.

Indecently, I cannot believe that people’s arguments about substantive issues, on this board, are little more than “OMG A CROSSHAIR!” Rebutal: “OMG A CROSSHAIR!”

That’s stupidity on the level of “OMG OBAMA IN A TURBAN!”

Be proud of yourselves.

Drop this shit.

Okay for the sake of argument, I will give you that SP is a semi-intelligent human being who did not mean for anyone listening to her speeches or reading her FB and Twitter rantings to do harm to anyone who opposing the Republican agenda. But that said, how long has she lived in this country? She knows our violent, bloody past, particularly where elected officials are concerned, so why even go there? No, she is not directly responsible for Tucson, but she damn sure didn’t do anything to prevent it.

I apologize for being an idiot. You are right. :o

It IS funny though. I like this quote:

ETA: Apologies to bup if you found that link in the other thread and thought I was being serious.

No worries. There’s a ton of weird stuff out there. It lightened the mood of this thread. :wink:

Does she? I thought as far as conservatives were concerned the past was all sunshine and rainbows where Americans prospered amidst unfettered capitalism and family values. :slight_smile: