Yeah those silly Muslims still believing in the supernatural.
What’s wrong with them?
So a bunch of Poles and a couple of Texans are cluefucked as well? Big deal. Let me know when they’ve worked that little nugget of lunacy into their legal system and are using it as justification to kill people for make-believe crimes.
Huckabee isn’t officially out of it, yet.
Good point. And it makes me feel so much better about what the Saudis are actually doing right fucking now.
Still sounds like a nifty new ad for Capital One. Kiss from witch turns man impotent…he turns to the camera and says “What’s in your wallet?”
Needs work.
As long as the Saudis followed due process for witches there should be no problem. If she floated when they tossed her into the pond instead of sinking to the bottom, that’s proof enough.
Time to Pit thread deploring Saudi-bashing, 10 minutes and counting…
I would if I did, but I don’t; so I can’t.
Well, who else is going to make sure all the +1 items go to the appropriate party members?
I for one don’t believe the allegations in the OP. Everyone knows that it’s literate women who are witches, as well as those who can do simple math.
Seconded. I work and otherwise interact with people every day who believe in literal witchcraft and demonology. The Devil is as real to them as the moon and stars. My boss, an otherwise decent guy, refused to design a web page for a psychic. Not because the psychic was a fraud, but because she was in league with the devil.
Now picture these otherwise normal people remaking the government as they saw fit. (Didn’t I see Huckabee say in a speech that there were only 10 necessary laws?) Except for minor cultural differences, I would see very little difference between Saudi Arabia and here. Thank goodness for the Constitution and those brave enough to fight against the tide.
Hell, Huckabee has outright stated that the Constitution needs to be re-written to reflect his interpretation of God’s word.
Fundamentalists of any religion are dangerous. It’s definitely not in the same league, but look at what fundamentalist Christians are trying to do to the school system in this country.
Any cleric worth his salt knows you combat sorcery with the Miscast Magic spell. (level 5 and up only)
I gotta say, we modern secularized technologically advanced evolved humans on this board decrying these supposed backward numbskulls are in the definite minority on this earth. Yes, we have control of the media and modern communications, advanced ideas about human interaction, etc. But we’re really in an echo chamber of our own making. Most human beings on this planet don’t see things the way we do. It doesn’t make them more right - it’s just the way it is.
So, I guess I’m saying my shock and outrage is tempered by this knowledge.
Arranged marriages, honor killings, dowry bride-burnings, belief in witchcraft, where does it end? It doesn’t, no matter how many rockets we send into space or computers we hook up.
Exactly, I’d rather be a newt with a raging hard-on than a human with a set of soggy prophet berries!
Yes. The problem is the roots.
So how much worse would things have been if in 1990 a secular Iraq had invaded the Kingdom?
Nah, I don’t really mean it, but it sure as hell looks a lot of the time like we are on the wrong side. How long do we have to buy into the argument that they are changing as fast as they can?
http://www.arts.ed.ac.uk/witches/index.html
Check out the Survey of Scottish Witchcraft Database and of the existing records look how many cases involve midwifery compared to the others that do not. The Witch Trials of Europe during the early modern period were a lot more complicated than jealousy of midwives on the part of doctors.
Marc
Well, what else do you expect from a bunch of Muggles anyway 
MGibson, I stand corrected. “Folk healing” was a factor in 140 of the 4000 cases of convicted witches in that Scottish database.
Still, the hypocrisy keeps nagging at me. In the past there were far too many cases of the hypocrisy and inconsistency. An old woman performing “magic”? Burn the witch! An old official man doing the same? Respect him.
For the most part we’ve been taught the most simplistic causes of historical events that really don’t give us much insight into why they happened. Scotland was just one example but it’s certainly possible that in other areas of Europe folk healing or mid-wifery comes up more often.
The strange thing is that the authorities during that time were more concerned with diabolism than they were with maleficia (bad magic). Peasants were more worried about maleficia. I have to admit that I don’t really understand the difference between witchcraft and other forms of magic.
Marc
Diabolism is the worship of the devil or of a demon. Maleficia is the use of sorcery to harm another.