Say the states that wanted to secede did. Then what?

Politics & Elections
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From this (and similar articles I have been reading lately):

What would happen if the deeply gerrymandered red states actually seceded from the US and formed their own Red States of America or Republican Republic of Republically Republican Republics of America (RRRRA)? How would their government fair in five or ten years?

I live in Texas, and our lovely Governor has talked about secession from the US from time to time. So what would happen? What would really happen if the blue states were to be their own collection of states and the red ones another?

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Well, there’s some precedent for that. It was called the Civil War (or the War of Northern Aggression, in some places).

The government was just fine after a while, although things didn’t go too well for the states that seceded.

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Well, the blue states, that is, the United States of America, would do just fine, but the red states, that is, Dumbf**kistan, not so much.

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Texas Land Commissioner and LG candidate Jerry Patterson wants the blue states to secede from the Union.

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I know that Texas really couldn’t hold it together that long as a nation of it’s own, but there was a lot of direct challenge to its sovereignty from Mexico at the time. I wonder if the RRRRA would be more of a target for terrorist activities from jihadists and whatnot.

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The whut?!

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Brain Glutton

Just me trying to be cute.

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Who says they get to keep it?

Or, after thinking to myself for a minute… Maybe they can have this country, its kinda jacked up. Maybe its time to flush and start with a clean bowl. I dunno.

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Let’s say we had the Blue States of America (BSA) and Red States of America (RSA). Job 1 would be to apportion to each its share of the national debt. Suppose we just did it by share of the former USA’s population. Fine, whatever. If we can do that, then each new nation has its own currency, own laws, own capital. The RSA could outlaw abortion and teach creation in school and recite the Lord’s Prayer to their heart’s content. The BSA could have the carbon tax and do away with the destructive Bush tax cuts. In fifty years, the BSA will thrive and have to seal its border with the RSA.

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50 years? More like 5 weeks. Without the subsidy they get from the blue states the red states would go tits-up in a heartbeat.

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Who says the subsidy would end? Don’t both halves still need each other? Can the BSA feed itself?

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What States would we assume would be most likely to succeed?

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Texas has to give our Space Stuff back. :slight_smile:

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There aren’t really forty-two states that want to secede. Look at Texas, as a prominent example: a population of 26,000,000 of whom 60,000 signed a secession petition. That means over 99.7% of the population haven’t asked to secede.

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Can Japan feed itself? They seem to be okay with importing food. There would be trade between the BSA and RSA, that’s a given.

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Those petitions were online, not limited to Texans. I haven’t yet heard of any state having an actual secession motion in progress.

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And which would be most likely to suck eggs?

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Exactly. So it’s not as if the RSA would be somehow adrift and all on its own, either.

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Are you allowed to move from one country to the other before the secession?

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There’s no real interest in this from anyone with power. Statements to the contrary are just a sop to dumbasses who like this kind of rhetoric. That said, if someone really tried to secede there would be another war. The Civil War settled this: you don’t get to join the Union and then back out just because you are unhappy about one law or your lack of control. The Constitution is a binding agreement.