SPOILER ALERT - but isn’t that the case for the whole thread?
Towards the end of “The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya” it looks like the explanation for what has happened over the last two hours + is going to be the old, It Was All Just A Dream. But, that’s not the case.
Going back to the OP, heck yes, and for almost the same thing.
When I was in the Army I spent thirteen months in South Korea. This was 1976 to 1977, and American chains weren’t big yet, because at the time SK was not signatory to a lot of international copyright agreements.
My first meal back on American soil was a Big Mac, a large order of fries, and a chocolate shake. I’d had the gift certificates for it burning a hole in my wallet since I got them in a Christmas card from my aunt.
Absolute heaven. Of course there are better burgers out there, but this was the pleasure of a state of mind.
This isn’t necessarily quite the kind of thing you’re looking for, because this is a fanwanked explanation, not something revealed later on in the movie. But… the scene at the end of Revenge of the Sith where Obi-Wan says something like “It’s over, I hold the higher ground” is just ridiculous on its surface, because obviously Annakin can just go land his little lava-raft somewhere else and walk around the side. Not to mention that people have had the higher ground several times already in that fight without it being over.
So, another Lucas groaner, right?
Well, I like to think that Obi-Wan said what he said specifically to taunt Annakin, who was the overall stronger fighter but had a weakness of massive hubris, into trying to prove Obi-Wan wrong in every single particular by jumping right over his head at that very instant… thus exposing himself to Obi-Wan’s victorious blow. In other words, it wasn’t Obi-Wan being dumb and not understanding the situation, it was Obi-Wan needling Annakin into snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Sadly, I have very little evidence that anything that clever and subtle was intended…
Did you read the OP?
It was an apparently stupid move because it was against standing orders, and you didn’t know until later in the film that Ash was…
Spoiler, as if we need it after all this time
[spoiler] …a robot who had been programmed to bring such things back.
Actually, it’s more complicated than that, because the script seems to be an utter mishmash because it is an utter mishmash. The ideas kept changing back and forth and were never, to my mind, satisfactorily settlede before theyt had a final script, and actually filmed the damned thing. In different drafts
– The alien was the subject of religious ceremonies by the inhabitants of the planet and/or the ones piloting the ship, who jah hieroglyphics devoted to the life cycle.
– the alien was a fortuitous hitrchiker on the (other) alien ship
– Ash was a robot who admired a “perfect” life form and threw his lot in with it, sabotaging attempts to kill or corral it.
– “Mother”, the ship’s computer, was the one who admired the superior lifeform, and subverted attempts to kill or corral it.
–“The Corporation” (which got its name later) ordered the capture of the alien organism , utilizing Ash (and maybe the computer) in an incredibly stupid and clumsy pickup that used the Nostromo’s crew as hosts and guinea pigs.
The film was an awful lot better, and made more sense, before O’Bannon anbd company ripped it off from Jerome Bixby’'s It! The Terror from Beyond Space.
Inglorious Basterds. The evil German is talking to the French farmer and inexplicably asks him if he wouldn’t mind speaking in English instead of French. I rolled my eyes at that one and giggled when he revealed why he wanted to speak in English.
Re Iron Man and the cheeseburger, at the time he said that he was in his limo being driven back from the Air Force base. I got the impression that Burger King just happened to be the first fast-food place they passed on the way. Stark himself never specified a brand, just “I want a cheeseburger and a press conference. But first the cheeseburger”.
One I’ll contribute: The infamous Kessel Run line from Star Wars. “Fast? You’re looking at the ship that made the Kessel Run in under twelve parsecs.” It’s not the scriptwriters being idiots, it’s Han assuming that Obi-Wan and Luke were idiots and BSing them. To which, of course, Obi-Wan rolls his eyes. It’s like the sheepshank bit in Jaws.
Yes, I know that it was later retconned, but I like my explanation better.
The way I’ve heard it explained that this was basically to mirror a scene from Episode I, when Obi-Wan is hanging in the bottomless pit and Darth Maul has the high ground on him. If you recall that scene, Obi-Wan leaps over Maul who just stares at him with a dumb look on his face and gets cut in half. The scene in Episode III was supposed to be a “I’ve been here before and learned how to deal with this maneuver”.
It’s a stupid explanation, but concidering the quality of the prequels and Lucas going on and on about rhyming and stanzas in the making of material, I’d imagine it’s the correct explanation.
Heh, oops. I’ve only seen the film once and it’s been awhile.
Good responses, everyone. (Also, fanwank is fine, for those of you who think it doesn’t count. I think you could argue that my OP was fanwank, even if I’m not actually that big a fan.)