So, can we sue Bill Frist for malpractice, based on his incorrect diagnosis?
It was lost because Kerry was trying to pander to everyone and satisfied NO ONE.
You on the other hand are a dishonest bitch who refuses to recant slander and instead builds a strawman wearing a tu quoque on a slippery slope.
Anyone wanna make odds on how long it takes for the Medical Examiner to receive his first death threat from the “Culture of Life” crowd?
Never mind. Probably too late.
Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. However, when you compare the CAT scan of that boy to that of Terri Schiavo, even my uneducated eye can see that Terri’s brain was in much worse shape. His problem appears confined to a relatively small area compared to Terri’s. I’m sure that the medical examiner does a lot more than weigh the brain to come to the conclusion that the damage was profound and irreversible.
Undoubtedly true. But nothing in the Schiavo case suggested anything other than a straightforward case of persistent vegetative state. And the opinion of the doctors who performed the autopsy, who I would expect are more qualified than any to have an opinion on the matter, agrees.
So where exactly are the grounds to suggest that this case defies all previous medical knowledge and an example of what we just don’t know about the brain?
I think that it mus be some “god” thing.
Yeah, it lacks a lot of the detail that the press conference had. The case which you cite is a case where the boy’s brain had been halved medially. The doctors made it pretty clear in the press conference that TS had necropsy from the outside in. Her cortex was toast. So while she only had half a brain, her half was different from the boy’s. I’ll try to dig up a transcript. It was a very interesting conference, and the Quincys did an excellent job of it. Although at some points they delved into a bit of terminology, they did a pretty good job of putting things into laymans terms when asked.
A rather fascinating part of the conference, that I’m sure will be pounced on soon enough, was that they kind of put to question the bulimia angle. I guess it is widely known that sodium levels can be shown to spike if there is defibulation, certain drugs administered, and massive fluid introduction, of which TS hit the trifecta. So the autopsy could not answer conclusively what she collapsed in the first place. They could not rule out drugs, caffeine, bulima, or anything really. So that’s a field that I’m sure will be planted with conspiracies. They did rule out abuse, so that claim surely will be altered to explain out the lack of broken bones, etc.
Anybody else get the image of Achilles dragging Hector around when you read this? Just me? Okay.
Correction. Potassium.
OK, sorry if I said anything untrue about the husband. I didn’t follow the case very closely, because I found it very painful for reasons I can’t go into to. But if he believed his wife was truly dead, it was wrong for him to be married to her while starting another family. There’s “moving on with your life” and then there’s starting a whole new family on the side.
Whatever. You’ve dodged most people’s questions and comments pointed at you, and you don’t want to deal with the shitstorm. Intellectually dishonest as hell, but I get it.
Sam
I think that would be the worship of deity served the Evil High Priest of our college D&D campaign.
Are you simple? From what I can tell and have seen, the reason he didn’t divorce her was because he wanted to make sure that her wishes were carried out. What he did, he did out of love.
Sorry if I said anything untrue?
You lied.
And now you recant in a half assed way.
Yeah, you’re a good Christian.
Where in the world did they dig up these incompetent buffoons who performed this utterly bogus autopsy? A truly competent physician, like Dr. William (“Hello, Kitty!”) Frist, could have told them they were entirely wrong.
(emphasis added in shock, horror, and dismay)
Dr. Frist was too busy treating people who got HIV from tears and sweat to do the autopsy.
For 400 years the Roman Catholic moral tradition has said that one is not obliged to use disproportionately burdensome measures to sustain life. -John J. Paris, Jesuit Catholic priest
First of all, this is not a fight about a feeding tube in a woman in Florida. This is a fight about the political power of the Christian right. -John J. Paris
Richard McCormick, who was the great Catholic moral theologian of the last 25 years, wrote a brilliant article in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 1974 called “To Save or Let Die.” He said there are two great heresies in our age (and heresy is a strong word in theology—these are false doctrines). One is that life is an absolute good and the other is that death is an absolute evil. We believe that life was created and is a good, but a limited good. Therefore the obligation to sustain it is a limited one. The parameters that mark off those limits are your capacities to function as a human. -John J. Paris
It just makes no moral sense. -John J. Paris
"We are playing with a young woman’s life for the sake of politics,’’ said Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga
"The caption tonight ought to be: We’re not doctors, we just play them on C-SPAN.’’ - Barney Frank
"The actions of the majority in attempting to pass constitutionally dubious legislation are highly irregular and an improper use of legislative authority,’’ -NancyPelosi
MS didn’t believe that his wife was dead–he knew that she was in a PVS and fought like hell to have her wishes carried out.
I hope I could do as much for my spouse, god forbid that happening.
So, she’s the “worse” and in “sickness” (as in the matrimonial vows)and he should just move on? He did start investing emotionally in another woman–and a family. He didn’t have the blessing of prescience that the RR seems to have–MS had no idea when Terri would completely die–and like most young men and women, he wanted a family and a life. He acted honorably and steadfasted-ly (is that a word?) and he is still lambasted from pious idiots about this other woman.
Would that all in her situation could have such a commited advocate.
I think the parents succumbed to some sort of pyscho=pathology. Terri was no longer Terri to them, but a reason to NOT move on in their lives. They are the ones who got “stuck” and stayed stuck–not Michael. I am sure of the 3(parents and MS), it is MS who is the most mentally healthy at present.
By starting a family, do you mean going ahead and having children, or just finding a new girlfriend?
Because if it’s the former, I sort of agree. If only because I don’t think it would have been fair to place children in the middle of such a mess-I think they should have waited.
There are pathways in the brain that support the unconscious tracking and detection of objects (e.g., superior colliculus pathway). ‘Ocular center’ is vague enough as to be meaningless - visual behaviours can still exist even after complete removal of the primary visual cortex.
Based on the CNN report alone, there’s no way of knowing how the owner of the brain described would behave IRL. The behaviour of Schiavo when alive provided far more compelling info. regarding her state of vegetableness.