Sticking with the with the Libbi and Iraq context (Oh no, not the subject of the thread! Horrors!) A better reason then to condemn what the administration did.
To turns us from a nation that did respond to attacks into a nation that would attack preemptively. It is made worse when the evidence now shows it was a phony reason to invade. And if powerful contractors are going to suffer now if we leave, well too bad. The money of the USA should not be used to make a few producers overseas happy.
I do remember many producers not considering putting manufacturing shops (jobs) in the USA because of the health care cost, I guess they prefer to be forced into going overseas to produce in countries with “evil” “socialistic” health care.
Joe Wilson was wrong. Like it or not. That is a fact.
I’d rather get esoteric than argue the facts here simply beacuse the facts go way way back. My sources run a little bit deeper than Ann Coulter. He was there, and it was his job to find this out. It probably happened under his nose and he defended his position that he was not asleep at the wheel. He defended himself and there was retaliation from his defense that said that Bush lied and people died. If you run this through the moonbats on this thread, it was all honest mistakes. If you run the Scooter Libby case by a wingnut, you would see the exact same line of thinking.
Did Wilson lie? You be the judge. There is UN documented reports that Iraq was trying to buy uranium from Nigerial while Wilson was there to investigate. He said no.
Did Scooter lie. Same diff
They most likely both knew the tangled web that they were weaving.
I jumped into the BBQ with a “Can’t we all just get along” attitude less than 24 hours ago but I have found a moonbat to wingnut ratio of about 10:1. The fish do not know they are wet. I don’t watch the news, and only get my information from the internet. I get the information that I want to. Maybe I am all wet and don’t know it.
This is just another waste of taxpayers money for political purposes. That is the way we like it. Take the powers away from the presidency that are abused at this point in the term. Take away the political gerrymandering. The fact is that it’s not going to happen becuase you don’t wan’t those powers gone when you and I get a turn at the wheel.
There were a few wingnuts crying in thier persrciption drugs over the clinton deal, but nothing like the SWEET SWEET SORROW of the leftie tears over this one. Tasty. It will be back and forth for a while, don’t worry.
Repeating what what you can not support outside right wingnut places is indeed being all wet.
And I mentioned before that I crushed guys like you in the University debates, I meant to say that I did mop the floor with guys like you. Hence my remark that I needed to clean the kitchen floor.
And good to know that you are a glutton for punishment, I needed punching bag like that for a long time, was getting rusty.
So your sources are the “evil” sorry, I meant to say evil republican sources that you claim to despise too. As I have seen, even the mainstream media has been caught repeating those false bits. What an spectacular way to demonstrate how wet you are.
Seems like that meme was developed from a very lose reading of this paragraph in his famous Op Ed piece:
So it’s not even clear that [the office of] Dick Cheney asked anyone to go to Niger-- it seems as though that visit was thought up by the CIA as a way of getting the answer to a question from [the office of] Dick Cheney. One might interpret that as claiming that Cheney sent him on the mission, but I think that’s stretching the meaning well beyond what is reasonable.
The man is a liar, and he isn’t even very good at it. You really need to take a grapefruit spoon and dig out of your brain anything he ever said that lodged in there.
Geeeeze. The political jabs go back ad-infinitum. THAT IS MY POINT!!! Joe Wilson lied and peopled died … er something. er he forgot. er he was framed into this whole thing by aliens. WHO
I’m going to say it again.
Take the pardon powers from the president then.
Won’t happen because your guy / gal will be there next.
Your guy was there before and you were outside the barrell.
Give me more of those sweet sweet tears of sorrow that I’m feeling here.
Spectacularly missing the point is your forte, pardons powers are there as a check to the other branches of the government, the problem right now is that the government is controled by right wingers (The democratic mayority in congress does have conservative democrats), and corrupted by them.
And that is your last refuge, any democratic candidate will not be my guy because he/she will be mostly a centrist, but you want to ignore that there is really no serious leftist candidate because it would dawn on you what idiotic ideas you have.
Bwa Haa haaa! Sure there are tears, I grant you that, we are laughing so hard!
I provided the cites that you all didn’t like for a reason. It really doesn’t matter where they come from, if they were in favor of my argument they would be from wingnuts and therefore discredited in a moonbat argument. Tit for tat the arguments are the same on either side. There is no reason is hell to take an oath and tell the truth in this political environment and nooobody is about to unload this gun because it is working.
The mob are the producers.