Great. Another self-made “martyr”.
Dude, you have no super-seekrit wisdom the moderators are afraid you’ll release to the general population here. Either you can back up your claims, or you can’t.
Isaac Asimov was an atheist. There is also evilbible.com if you find Asimov is too sympathetic to religion.
So if someone is an atheist then they cannot have anything useful to say about Christianity?
Are you a presuppositionalist/Calvinist?
Sometimes it does take an outsider to provide a valid criticism, I’ll grant you that. But even the most erudite and well-spoken people can turn out to be hatemongers, pure and simple. No better than the people they demonize.
No, not a Calvinist. I was raised in the Catholic Church, but nowadays I’m part of a Baptist congregation and I try not to too hung up on denomination.
So is Asimov a “hatemonger” or not?
Well, can you recommend someone whose work is readable, detailed, annotated and “sympathetic” (however one defines the term)?
I’m back and was about to expound on the clarity of j666’s scripture cite.
Has somebody already started a new thread on the “doctrine and Biblical interpretation” tangent that has emerged here?
Not yet. So if you want to discuss that cite, please start that thread.
I didn’t say he was.
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/newtestament/summary.html
These are a few links you may find helpful.
Just a head’s up; you’re totally going to get piled on 
I know. sigh
Maybe. Any specific references to Lucifer in these?
Do you know how to use the Google search engine?
Assuming this question in response to my question, let’s assume I can indeed use Google.
Now, do any of the links you’d provided support your descriptions of Lucifer and if so, where?
How do you know?
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Nothing that is not omnipotent can pose even the slightest challenge to something that is omnipotent, because the omnipotent is infinitely beyond it.
Because you kept losing, no doubt.
Because a being with no limits doesn’t have to fight anyone. He would know of the attack before hand (omnipotence includes omniscience). He could also avert any attack without effort and even re-make the attacker to love him.
An omnipotent being can’t be kicked in the nuts unless he wills it. It’s inherent in the concept of omnipotence.
Now if you’re suggesting that God is merely, super-duper-powerful and not omnipotent, then He certainly could have enemies.
As an aside, if you don’t understand concepts like omnipotence, you probably haven’t put much effort into thinking out your spiritual beliefs. Maybe you should leave these arguments to those who actually put in the work necessary to have a handle on this?
If you’re constantly shown to be wrong, it’s not people picking on you. It’s people trying to show you that you’re wrong.
Better than Google - I know how to use BibleGateway, one of the most comprehensive online Bible resources around. In fact, even though I’m a true-blooded, dyed in the wool atheist, I use this quite a bit when I’m curious about some bit of Biblical lore.
A search for “Lucifer” shows that the word only appears once, and only in the King James version and its variants. And, as Czarcasm indicated, where it does appear, it only references the King of Babylon, in Isaiah 14 and has no connection as an embodiment of Satan whatsoever.
While the search engine I selected only lets you pick 5 at a time to search, I chose a fairly broad smattering - if you doubt my cite, Theophane, feel free to play around with the search parameters, and get back to us with some actual information, like maybe exactly where in the Bible the name Lucifer is used to describe Satan.
As an aside, I saw this on Wikipedia and had to share:
Huh, so Christ is Lucifer, huh? Go figure.