SDMB Auction fantasy football league

I was going to create the league after the draft, but it’d be silly if anyone ended up forgetting to create their team the day before actual football started, so I figure there’s no harm in creating the league now.

Currently all settings are the yahoo default settings. We can adjust the roster sizes and such as we discuss it.

Please go ahead and sign up for the league now if you’re interested and can probably make the draft. If you end up missing the draft - oh well. There’s no autodraft for an auction league, so your team will have to be deleted, but no harm done really.

We may end up running into a problem where an odd number of people show up for a draft, and IIRC, yahoo doesn’t allow oddly numbered leagues anymore. We’ll have to cross that bridge if we come to it I suppose.

The league number is #669577, the password is Cecil. Please sign up now if you’re still interested. And if any new people are interested, we’re still recruiting up until the draft.

Mundi, as far as your preference to start later - is 8pm EST Wednesday doable for you even if not ideal? No one else has expressed a preference, and so long as it’s not a deal breaker, I’d like to start early to ensure that we have plenty of time.

8:00pm is borderline early for me as well, but I could make it.

Regarding the odd number of owners, I believe the deal is that you can’t do a live draft with an odd number of owners, but for manual drafts I don’t think it matters.

I was thinking about how I wanted to bid in this draft, and a few questions came to mind:[ul][li]How much do we start with?[/li][li]Is there a minimum bid and/or minimum increment?[/li][li]How big are the rosters going to be/what's the breakdown?[/li][li]Do you have to bid enough to win a certain number of players? If so, what's the penalty for failing to do so?[/ul]Some of these questions are kinda related, in that the amount of we start with should be tailored (in some way) to the total roster breakdown/size.[/li]
Also, does it revert to standard fantasy rules after the draft?

We could try 9 if that works better for people. Feel free to chime in with preferences.

This is the relevant yahoo page:

it sounds like you can’t do it at all.

These are ultimately interrelated and arbitrary. A 100 draft with .50 increments is the same as a $200 draft with $1 increments. It fundamentally comes down to what percentage of someone’s total funds you want the minimum bid/increment to be.

In the original post, I said that I thought $100 was standard, but it appears that $200 is more common. We could go with whatever amount felt right - but the further we get away from the standard, the more you’d have to adjust from cheat sheets and such. (Not that I necesarily view that as a bad thing, I like when people have to do their homework or at least put some thought into it).

I would propose $200 total, $1 minimum increment for bids over 10, and .50 minimum increment on bids under $10. That would give us greater bidding ‘resolution’ so to speak on backups and sleepers who might only fetch a few bucks.

I figure we should probably come up with different roster sizes based on how many people come, and that’s up for discussion. If we have 6 players, we should probably have more roster slots each than if we have 10 players. We’ve got a few days to discuss that if anyone has ideas.

Good question, haven’t thought of that. Blowing all your money on a few players is sort of it’s own punishment in that you’d have to fill the rest of your roster with undrafted players (of low quality). Should we have an additional requirement/punishment? I’m not sure what sort of punishment we could implement. This one I’ll leave up for discussion.

Yeah, I don’t see why not. Do you have any suggestions for rules post-draft?

I think the rosters should be locked until after the first week. ie: The only players you get to play in the first week are those you won at auction.

I can’t find where to enter this stuff into Yahoo’s fantasy football pages. Can anyone give me a link, please?

You mean here?

I thought it’d be there too, but I put the information in and it didn’t like it.

I’m an idiot. It’s “cecil”, not “Cecil”.
Yeah, you guys have to fear me in the league. Grr.
Wait…3 people? Guys, get joining!

My bad. I didn’t think it was case sensitive or I’d have been more careful to accurately relay it.

Hopefully the people who showed interest earlier in the thread will still sign up. Try to sign up in the yahoo league asap so we can get a head count, and state any preferences you have here about draft time or league rules.

Oh and the suggestion about locking the waivers until after week 1 is a good one. Let’s do that.

These links may be of interest:

2007 Fantasy Football Auction Values

Super-involved auction rules that we’re too late to try

Some kind of software to handle live auction draft

A discussion of auction leagues

Overview and tips for auction drafts - good read

Blind auctions

I vote for QB 2RB 3WR TE K DEF 7BEN = 16 total roster spots, $200 total with minimum bid/increment $1.

Not too much time left to get this all organized.

Kiros, MadTheSwine, Omniscient, VarlosZ, Mundi, EsotericEnigma - you guys still interested? If the draft time/day is a problem we have some time left to be somewhat flexible, but you’ll have to post to tell us.

Can anyone with auction draft experience estimate how long this might take? Now that I think about it, perhaps we should do the draft on Tuesday in case it takes longer than we thought, and/or people have issues come up in the draft that makes them have to go afk, or whatever. That way we’re not 1 day before the start of the football season - we have an extra day to work with if something goes wrong.

Could you guys make a draft Tuesday? Is 9pm better for everyone?

Either day works for me.

Either day works for me also.

I know I’m ridiculously late for this, but do you still have a spot open in this league? I promise to overbid on Browns!

Yes, you can join still. But no, you cannot overbid on Browns. That’s my job. :stuck_out_tongue:

If we end up with an odd number of owners, we should use a computer team to fill out the last spot making it an even number of teams. (As opposed to kicking someone out.)

The way I envision the computer owner is that it doesn’t participate in the auction. After the auction is over and the rosters have been set, the computer will get the BPA according to yahoo rankings at every position.

Each week, the computer team’s starting lineup is configured based solely on the yahoo projected scored. Whomever is projected to score more gets the starting spot.

That’s not a bad idea. It has its drawbacks… playing the computer team is probably a free win to whoever goes against it because of the quality of the players it will have to work with, it will eat up what would’ve otherwise been the top quality free agents, and if somehow the computer ends up making it to the playoffs and wins the championship we all have to hang our head in shame.

However kicking someone out also sucks.

Edit: A thought about that. We should probably only fill up the computer’s starting spots, and leave the bench empty. That minimizes the effect of taking the best available free agents. When the computer’s player has a bye week or gets injured, he can be replaced by the best available free agent at the time.

I sent a private message to those who posted in this thread and haven’t responded lately. MadTheSwine won’t be able to participate in this with us, and the rest didn’t respond. They might be away on labor day weekend, which makes me think running things Tuesday is probably too short notice, unless they happen to chime in tonight and say they’re okay with it.

Hopefully we can get everything done Wednesday night. I’m not sure how long this will take, although Ellis Dee and I discussed how we could make this process as quick and efficient as possible. In the event that we can’t, we can finish it up sometime next week and then start scoring in week 2 - not a big deal.

While I’m at it, here’s how we’re planning on conducting the league. If you have any objections or suggestions, feel free to voice them.

The auction will be conducted on ventrilo, free software available for the PC and MAC that has both voice and text chat components. Those with a microphone are welcome to use it, but those without one can still listen, and type what they want to say.

There will be a randomly determined nomination order. When it’s an owner’s turn on that order, he will nominate a player to be bid on, with a minimum bid. The bid will be up to the owner’s discretion - you don’t want to start out with your maximum bid, generally, because you might overpay and it doesn’t leave much room for auctioning. Start with a reasonable number. For instance, we know Tomlinson is going to probably go for more than $40 - so there would be no point in starting at 1, going to 2, 3, all the way up to 40. The person nominating him could start the bidding at 35 or 40 to get the ball rolling. The minimum bid will be $1. Amount of starting money will probably be $200, but until we know the league size and roster size, still under discussion, we’re not sure.

Players will be able to freely bid in voice and text, with minimum bid increases of $1. Once the bidding has clearly slowed down, I’ll say “current winning bid on [plaer] is [amount] by [owner]… 5…4…3…2…1” - and if at any point someone bids while I’m counting down, the bidding will reopen until things slow down again and I repeat the process until we have a winner. I’ll then write down the winning owner, the amount they paid and subtract it from their total. There’s no requirement to bid at any particular time - it’s perfectly valid if your first bid after sitting out of the action is the winning bid. However, try not to go too far with this - I don’t want to restart a countdown on a player 5 times because no one wants to bid until the last second.

At any time anyone can ask what players they have (although I suggest you write it down yourself) or what someone else has or how much money they have left. It’d be helpful if you kept track of some of this yourself, but I’ll have all the data in front of me and nothing will be secret.

In the event of a tie - that is, more than one player sharing the highest bid on a player, but no one is willing to go higher, the winner will be the nominating owner or the closest person after the nominating player in the nomination order. That is… if the third person in the nomination order nominated the player originally, he would win any ties, followed by the fourth person in the order, and the fifth, wrapping all the way around so that the first and second person in the order were the last two. This seems like a fair system because the order of tie breaking priority advances by one person every round.

Rosters can fill up unevenly - one guy can have all of his players while others don’t. When a player reaches a full roster, he is then excluded from the nomination process and bidding - his draft is over. This way towards the end of the draft only players with roster spots will do nominating and it’ll speed up the rest of the draft… and besides, if someone’s filled up their roster, they’re probably happy with what they’ve got and wouldn’t want to bid on anyone else anyway.

At the end of the draft the initial waiver priority order will be determined by how much money each player has left. The person with the most money left over will be at the top of the waiver list. I don’t encourage anyone to save money, because having a better opening roster is superior to having a good waiver priority.

You cannot sell back players after you’ve drafted them, and you cannot bid more money than you actually have. The rosters will be locked until after the first week of scoring, so that if you fail to fill up your roster with the money you had, you will have to go with empty slots in the first week until you can fill them up with free agents.

During the season, we’ll use a non-locking waiver wire for free agents explained here: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8926493&postcount=3.

After the draft and the waiver priorities being set, money will have no use in the league. It will be a normal fantasy league.

Anything I left out? Any suggestions, questions, or complaints?

I don’t think ties will be possible using our format, so you won’t have to worry about that at least. If the minimum bid is $1 more than the current bid, there is no tie.

Ties come into play with internet-based ebay-style auctions. Since we’ll be doing a live auction, it’s not an issue.