SDMB Footie Focus: January 2004

Thank You! Thank you very much! I’d like to thank my mother, London Calling’s Matron, and everyone else who made this day possible sniff.

It’s not been all bad on the pitch for us either… We managed something called a ‘win’ in the league recently, which surprised everyone. We’re still getting 23000 nuts in the home games and sell out almost every away game, which brings a tear to my eye, especially given the shite they’ve had to endure on the field. I hope to be joining them soon for a few games.

You can continue with the Tottenham talk now.

You forgot to mention that you suckered someone into buying Phil O’Donnell. Surely you deserve a promotion for that accomplishment alone.

No need to thank Matron, she performs the shock therapy treatment for pleasure. She’s just very sorry about the burned out connectors and your testicles.

Of course you’re used to worse what with Roy Hattersey, etc.
Any predictions for the Liverpool squad on Saturday . . . how’s the injury list, **Mr Meat **?

LC wrote:

She offered a great sales pitch on the Upper West; to the effect of them being a bunch of boring wankers who stare at anyone who wants to stand up and give it some. Probably all Estate Agents, I said . . . where was it you sat again, Owl? . . .
I would actually describe it as being full of fat old jews, fat old gentiles (inc your’s truly) young jewish princesses who talk on their mobiles all through the match and people with more money than sense.

Its where you go when you retire from being noisy.

Estate Agents couldn’t afford it.

On the up side it is the best view, and it’s easy to get a beer at half time, and you can call Levy names.

I would be so very happy if we bought Butt (and it wouldn’t be the first time Pleat had bought Butt).

How do you do quotes on this new layout?

No idea.

Oh okay. Every post is contained in its own dinky box. At the bottom right and still inside each box is a reply button - that is distinct from the ‘post reply’ button not in the box and bottom left at the end of the thread.

Click it.

This kind of thing is in danger of becoming tedious, but here you go:

West Ham FC for sale

“any old irons?
any old irons?”

There is talk that Acimov is going to the Boleyn. That’ll learn 'em.

Tansu!

I believe Steve Guppy has gone back to your crowd. Keep your eye out for him, he’ll be wearing a mask and carrying a sack labelled “SWAG”.

The post below comes from an unofficial Leeds web site, apparently. I don’t know what to say about it, really, except it strikes me as remarkable; he probably pours more emotion into it than he has anything else in his life, now or past, excluding his kids. I’m sure he put less effort into his wedding speech.

But he hurts, and he’s angry and he’s frustrated. And he’s resigned to relegation.

What did Wellington say, I don’t know what they do to the enemy but, my God, they scare me.

One of the mysteries of life is men and their emotions, I certainly haven’t got a clue and I kind of ought to by now. Anyway, here’s his rant:

I have got to get this off my chest. Been going man and boy my credentials are not in doubt, believe me. Got the T shirt, video and 23 consec season tickets to prove it. Fought, been twatted, given a slapping, been arrested, charged and nearly sent down for 6 months. Mug shot plastered over the YEP, local tv, national papers and sky sports during hunt for Leeds soccer thugs. Been in away ends length and breadth inc Birmingham first game back after riot, Bratfut more times than i care to mention, been on the pitch home and away and represented Leeds at England games, and ps have the club etched into my body.

Now my point.

I am Leeds through and through. I support the name that is ‘Leeds Utd’ and everything it is supposed to mean. No longer though will i tolerate supporting a club that is so far removed from what the real fans support. By this i mean criminal money men who think of leeds as a balance sheet and not a footbal club. A club that should be for the fans not the shareholders. I may not have been the best type of ‘fan’ that the club wanted but who else was supporting them during the 80’s home and away. Who else was going to place’s like Swindon on a Tuesday night? who else followed the club to difficult places like OT, Millwall, all the London clubs etc to provide the team with that much needed much wanted vocal support that encourages the team in places like that to try and get the results we needed. Then theres the expense, the using up of valuable holidays etc…who does all that…the lads thats who NOT the glory seekers the fly by nights the corporates. The johhny cum late, the I’ll start going cos they are winning things now.

And what have the club done to this hardcore fan base over the last ten years, the likes of me and you? they’ve cast us aside.
Made us buy tickets for everything, but only if you have a members card so they have your name and ID, address. So they can force the hard sell on you for credit cards, insurance, phone alerts, etc etc.
Forced you to sit down at home , oh no you can’t stand up and sing and enjoy the passion of moment or you will be ejected. No questions asked. Dare swear and your out, look at a steward in a funny way and your out son! But we are the fans! the singers, the hardcore, the followers, the supporters of the team away, the get up at 6 in the morning lads to travel expensively away neglecting wives , girlfiends children.
Whats gona happen next year when the wheel falls of the bandwagon. The season ticket sales dive, the matchday ticket sales plummet, the stands become empty and eerily quieter, the marketing men are not meeting sales figure cos no one is buying replica shirts, scarves, phone alerts, programmes, @#%$ t shirts and coats, the list is endless…what then. What then when the hardcore remain…how will they treat us then.
Treat us differently?,…with some respect?? Fuckin doubt it.

I for one might not be there…in the ground. I’ll be following away from home where i know the real lads will be there, the real fans who put their hands in there pockets, who make the effort for no thanks at all except maybe a few players clapping u for 5 seconds at the end of the game. Yeah, like that really makes up for the 8 hour round trip! I’ll be trying to outsing the home fans, urging the team on.
I’ll still be there walking down any sreet in any town with my head held high, I am LEEDS, we are LEEDS.

The club? they can @#% themselves. When we stop being a business run by moneymen for moneymen i might be back. Im not being disloyal just sick to the teeth of paying out my good money, hard earned,to be overcharged, stewarded to hell, forced with the hardsell, to watch unkown frenchmen pick up an inflated wage and not try till their lungs are bursting. And its not just the foreigners either. Sick of seeing directors criminaly @#% up the club and walk away with big payoffs while i struggle to afford a holiday cos i have to find the money to follow the lads. Sick of seeing us sell sell sell. Who’s gonna buy the @#%$ replica gear now, i never have and never will, programmes…fuckin shite just a vehicle for club propaganda a means for making money, give me a fanzine anyday.

What am i trying to say? @#%$ if i know other than I’m sick of what has happened to my club. I feel its criminal what the ‘business men’ have done and all in the space of two years. other fans may take the piss, let em. Every club has some cross to bear. But bear this in mind. If you think you will have an easy ride at ER or when we come visiting your town then think again. We’re (the real fans/lads) not going anywhere. We’re down but we are not out. Infact i feel a new dawn is arising. We’ll regroup and we’ll be back…and wont the Nationwide know it!

Heart on sleeve and rant over.

I don’t think we actually sold him, his contract ran out at last. But seeing as we’re going through our worst injury crisis in recent memory even without him, I think he was contagious. Beware the O’Donnell virus!

Well, at least we’re not Leeds United.

he said (on seeing the reinforcements he’d been sent from England):

“I don’t know what effect these men will have on the enemy, but, by god, they frighten me.”

See - my History degree has some uses…

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Any predictions for the Liverpool squad on Saturday . . . how’s the injury list, Mr Meat ?

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Gerrard, Baros, Finnan, Carragher, Kirkland, Dudek still days/weeks away from fitness, Diouf & Diao off with Senegal. Hence rather odd team of
Jones___
Henchoz, Hyypia, Biscan, Riise
Smicer, Hamman, Murphy, Kewell
Heskey, Owen__

…is my guess, with Cheyrou possibly replacing Smicer or Murphy as he did at Chelsea to useful effect.

I suspect that they’ll be playing:

______________Keller

Carr______Doherty______Gardiner________King

Dalmat_____Anderton_______Brown____Davies

Keane_________Postigia
should be a good game.

Cheers Mr Meat.

I think Pleat will go with the same starting line up vs. Leeds, but without Kanoute:

Keller

Carr – G.Pele – Gardner – Treacle

Dalmat – King – Anderton – Davies

Keane – Postiga or Zamora

Call me Contrary Mary, but I’d be tempted to do this:
Keller

Carr – G.Pele – King – Treacle

Dalmat – Anderton – Davies – Jackson

Keane – Postiga or Zamora
I just (much) prefer Ledley in the back four. Either way, Brown should come on if the circumstances allow (possibly by taking Jackson off and moving Davies out to the wing).
It’s very often a mug bet in football (26% of Prem games), but I quite strongly fancy the draw. Possibly O - 0 again.

Well that was fun (apart from the last five minutes that were a bit frantic).

I even met that nice Rt Hon Michael Howard MP PC QC. He must have been the only jew in the place cheering on Liverpool.

Postigia finally scored (and cause some hilarity with his other attempts, not to mention his poofy alice bad. Sort it out Helder, you’re not in Europe now.)

And what about them wolves then?

Heh. I welcome Mr Guppy back with open arms.

Also, good riddance to Steve Howey.

Furthermore, I am somewhat depressed and frustrated that we YET AGAIN threw away a win because there seems to be confusion between the idea of closing out a game, and the idea of lounging around like a bunch of twats. This bothers me, to put it mildly.

A stag weekend prevented me from seeing even the highlights, but the Guardian says Spurs were the better team, and that’s good enough for one who tries to be as magnanimous in defeat as myself. It says long balls ruled the day, and against the glacial pace of Biscan, Henchoz and Hyypia I can see how Keane and Postiga might have profitted, even more so Kanoute had he been there. Anyway, well played.

Onwards to Wolves, Newcastle in the Cup and Everton. Three wins will make up for this.

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A stag weekend prevented me from seeing even the highlights, but the Guardian says Spurs were the better team, and that’s good enough for one who tries to be as magnanimous in defeat as myself. It says long balls ruled the day, and against the glacial pace of Biscan, Henchoz and Hyypia I can see how Keane and Postiga might have profitted, even more so Kanoute had he been there. Anyway, well played.

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we were the better of two very weak teams - this must be the poorest Liverpool team I have ever seen. For the first half LFC didn’t even try.

Biscan is woeful.

LFC did have a dead-cert penalty turned down, the Ginger Pele certainly did hand-ball.

On a more general note: me and the chaps were talking after the game and the discussion was - if you could choose to support another team who would it be, and why.

My choices were Southampton as they are a well run club, and I was brought up around there, and AFC Wimbledon, as they also represent something other than murdochian greed.

Any others (Enfield town were another possibility for me)?

One game is far from enough to say very much but I’ve never seen a Liverpool side like that before. I wouldn’t really know where to start . . .it was like watching England as Graham Taylor’s reign came to a close (was it away in Poland and Norway ?). I just think it’s just such a shame, I genuinely want Liverpool to be better than this.

Looking at the table and fixtures, they’ll be lucky to finish within 30 points of the champions, whoever that might be.

And £100 mill down the crapper. Jesus.

Mr Meat – Pleat instructed the players to keep it on the deck because Houllier seemed to play at least four central defnders, each about a foot taller than our midfield. Spurs played it around well, especially in the first half.

Good solid, combative performance from a Spurs team looking organised and confident; love the shape, balance and purpose at the moment.
Fwiw, my (other) mistress is also non-league. In fact, I’m currently forced to decide between her and Fulham away and it reminds me of why I swore off messing around with women all those years ago . . . it just gets so dreadfully stressful.

Staunton In Britney Shocker :eek:

Well, lets face it; he’s got more chance of scoring with her than on the pitch.
Anyone read that stupid story of Kevin Costner (the Gooner) at Villa on Sat. and Deadly Doug calling him ‘Richard’ all day ?