Obama. I can’t think of a way to improve on what Chronos said here by way of explanation.
Let me add the following:
From my POV, the GOP winning the White House would be pretty much a national disaster. If Rick Perry or whoever manages to win the Presidency, the GOP will hold the House for sure, and probably win the Senate as well. At that point, they can abolish the filibuster and pass whatever they damned well please. They’d cheerfully dismantle the government as we know it.
A President with a veto pen can stop that. Therefore, it’s vitally important to maximize the chance of holding the Presidency.
Even as things are, Obama seems to have a better-than-even chance of winning next fall’s election.
Even if Obama declined to run, and gave his enthusiastic support to my preferred pick for President, that person’s chances still wouldn’t be nearly as good as Obama’s.
And don’t forget the Supreme Court. A Republican President elected in 2012 will probably be able to appoint a fifth conservative activist to the court. And then the conservatives won’t need to worry about who’s in Congress or the White House.
The repubs are passing state laws to stop the poor from voting. They have to have proof at the polls. the proof is expensive and hard to obtain. It is strange how they claim to want to speak for the people while they are brooming as many as they can from poor , black and old neighborhoods. You would be surprised how many people do not have what they are demanding as proper ID. http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/07/video-reveals-bank-activity-a-requirement-for-wisconsin-voter-id/
Here is an example. This story is about a person who was refused a drivers license because their checking account did not show enough activity. what the hell does that have to do with anything?
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the proof is expensive and hard to obtain.
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I guess that’s why so few Americans are able to obtain proof of their citizenship (such as, oh, say a drivers license) and only the rich are able to vote, right? Do you ever actually think about what you are writing? I’m not saying that having ‘proof’ of who you are is a good thing or a bad one (for as long as I can remember it’s been required at the polls in New Mexico that you present a drivers license or birth certificate and picture ID), but it’s not ‘expensive’ OR ‘hard to obtain’ such proof. If you can’t be arsed to get a freaking drivers license or go and get your birth certificate then many states have methods to get other valid forms of ID. A quick google search shows that nearly 200 million Americans have drivers licenses, which is all the ID most states require to vote (if they require any at all).
Obama. He is thoughtful, sober, funny, idealistic, realistic, not near liberal enough, but a hell of a statesman. And he really pisses off the closet and not-so-closet rascists, which is really, really satisfying.
That’s proof of residency, but not of citizenship. A Social Security number isn’t, either. You need a passport, birth certificate (short form will do) or voter registration card.
You are making shit up again. I will make it simple for you. The group of people who have no proof that would satisfy the voter IDs they are saying are needed, are poor, old, and minorities. The Repub governors are deliberately targeting likely Dem voters.
How do you know what they can afford? You presume that since it is easy and affordable for you, it must be for everyone. Not everyone has a car or is a city dweller. In Michigan you sign in and they check your signature in the book and you vote. You do not have to show ID.
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That’s proof of residency, but not of citizenship. A Social Security number isn’t, either. You need a passport, birth certificate (short form will do) or voter registration card.
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:dubious: Cite? I vote every election and I need a drivers license to show proof that I am who I say I am and am entitled to vote my vote. Where do you need a passport and/or a birth certificate in order to vote?? (I don’t even HAVE a voter registration card)
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You are making shit up again.
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No, you are talking out of your ass again…as usual.
I’ll make it simple for you…show some solid proof or stfu and stuff your accusation that I’m lying (or ‘making shit up’) right up your ass…sideways. Is that simple enough?
Not only are you, as usual, making shit up, but as usual all the cites proving you wrong again, are ignored. You must occasionally be able to follow the info and learn something. Anything at all will do.
Your guy had that… and he made a worse mess of things.
Then the voters took the House and nearly the Senate away from him… but he still wants to spend like a sailor in a whorehouse.
Again, you talk about that like it’s a bad thing! That would actually be pretty awesome, because most of what government does, it does wrong.
How many Vetoes has “The One” actually issued up to this point?
Delusional. 9.2% unemployment (i’ll be saying 9.3 after Friday, I suspect.) 1.4% GDP Growth. 40% approval rating. He’s sinking like the* Titantic*.
Quite the contrary, Obama is becoming increasingly toxic, even to your side. Robert Reich just ripped him a new one. So have a lot of other liberal commentators. After another year of this, he isn’t going to be elected dog-catcher.
You mean stupidly, not seriously. You made a value judgement, that those who do not have ID, for whatever reasons are irresponsible. If you could follow a thread, you would see many seniors, poor people and minorities have a serious problem obtaining the ID that these right wing states are demanding. I suppose you can argue that being old, black or poor is irresponsible.
You are like XT who could not understand that 174,000 people in North Carolina, would have a problem voting . That is one state out of the 12 that are putting up voter roadblocks to stop potential Democratic voters from the polls. But in your world, people who vote Democratic are irresponsible. So it probably makes sense to you. Just the rest of the world would be out of step.
You are, as I said, proving residency, not citizenship. Resident aliens can get DL’s, too, and Social Security cards, since they pay into the system as well. You are also proving, via acceptable photo ID, that you are the person named on your license. That that name matches that of someone who is registered to vote at the same address does not prove citizenship or a right to vote, since those things would have been established at the time that person registered.
You don’t. You need them to register. Some jurisdictions issue registration cards, some don’t (mine doesn’t, either).
Play nice, boys.
Are you reconsidering your choice of user name yet? The joke has gone awfully stale.
You might look into the history of poll taxes. Citizens *cannot *be required to incur expense in order to exercise their franchise.
Do you ever actually think about what you are writing? I’m not saying that having ‘proof’ of who you are is a good thing or a bad one (for as long as I can remember it’s been required at the polls in New Mexico that you present a drivers license or birth certificate and picture ID), but it’s not ‘expensive’ OR ‘hard to obtain’ such proof. If you can’t be arsed to get a freaking drivers license or go and get your birth certificate then many states have methods to get other valid forms of ID. A quick google search shows that nearly 200 million Americans have drivers licenses, which is all the ID most states require to vote (if they require any at all).