SDMB weekly Bible Study (SDMBWBS)-Week 13 Genesis 20-22

I assume you meant “full book,” as we do quote full chapters. And that makes perfect sense to me.

Just watch out for those short books, especially Obadiah, Philemon, 2 and 3 John, and Jude, which are all only one chapter long. But those are going to be a while away.


Anyways, as for the idea that Abraham is showing faith–it has less to do with Isaac and more to do with having left his country to parts unknown based on what God told them, IMO. But, yes, Hebrews specifically states that Abraham was showing faith by sacrificing Isaac–it even says that Abraham must’ve reasoned that God would resurrect him if necessary. The idea is that Abraham trusted God so much that he didn’t need to question him.

And, yes, as Dex says, that was a new way of looking at the situation. That’s pretty much the point of Hebrews, to convince Jewish people (or believers) that the (Pauline) Christian way of looking at things is supported by the stories in the Old Testament.

davidw:

He happens to incidentally be Abraham’s offspring, but he isn’t “called” such in G-d’s eyes. G-d refers to Ishmael in the verse as “the son of the maid.”

CK Dexter Haven:

The traditional translation is that it referred to flint, for starting the fire.

The root of “ma’akhelet” is “akhal”, to eat, a knife being a utensil for preparing food (or, in turning a live animal into food). I’m not sure how you can consider it unusual, since this is only word for “knife” used in scripture. The word “Sakin,” which is modern Hebrew for “knife”, is first seen in the Talmud.

TonySinclair:

No contradiction. On the outside, she looked youthful. On the inside, she was aged.

Baker:

The interesting thing is, the Midrash actually says the opposite. Isaac is that way in G-d’s eyes, but not at all such in Abraham’s. According to the Midrash, that verse is actually a dialog between G-d and Abraham:

G-d: Take your son.
Abraham: I have two sons.
G-d: Your only son.
Abraham: Each is an only son to his mother.
G-d: The one you love.
Abraham: I love them both.
G-d: Isaac.

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