Sealioning

But if I say that betraying the Kurds is treason, then focusing on my use of treason, and making me justify it by legal definition is simply a distraction. You are not asking for evidence of treason, you are demanding that I justify my use of the word.

If I call someone a Nazi because the support fascist policies, then getting into the semantics of why they are not really the same as the Germans of 1945 is also just a distraction.
That is often the case here, is that someone uses a word in a colloquial fashion, rather than a legal one, and it is demanded to know, with only the limited knowledge available to those of us posting on a messageboard, how the actions rise to the level that is satisfied by the law.

  1. He repeatedly asks for cites, which he ignores and asks again later.
  2. He fixates on literal meanings of words & phrases.
  3. He picks out what he evidently sees as the weakest opposing point and argues against that as if it disproves all other points.
  4. He disrupts threads by dragging in something which, at first, seems relevant but is ultimately proven to be inconsequential (e.g., his weaksauce F-35 crap).

People who are “woke” aren’t ashamed of their world view. Underneath, in the deepest recesses, it seems to me that they want better outcomes on some issues. It is funny to see you try to make a skit out of an imagined woke troll.

If people are dog whistling I get what your example is saying. They will be cagy about their actual motive to post. Your example sounds like a conservative.

I don’t have anything against red. I explained already that I just get blue shirts and ties so I can mix and match them without much thought. I appreciate your opinion of the color red, thanks for sharing!

See? Doesn’t work on me. I bet I can answer questions for a lot longer than you care to ask them :slight_smile:

When you have a good position you don’t sealion or need to. In fact I think it might not even be possible to sealion from a good argument.

Conservatives, your positions have been bad. Look around you, here, your room, the world, anywhere.

You are the only current suspects in this case.

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that “sealioning” is a really fucking gay term, it seems to be really craving to be accepted into the vernacular but it’s fucking retarded.

But how else would someone know why you consider betraying the Kurds “treason” without asking you what you consider “treason” is and why you think betraying the Kurds rises to that definition?

Should people just accept that it is treason because you say so?

Using it informally you’d have a point. But the words aren’t being used informally. The words are used to support removal from office. Furthermore, when words like Nazi are directed at posters here they are used as inflammatory and dishonest slurs.

In discussions where you don’t give a shit about the content, sealions aren’t particularly irritating. Imagine if someone was doing this to you when you were talking about something you actually cared about, though.

Any cites of those imaginary straw man conservatives)

I would do the same thing. I own my opinions and can explain them for as long as someone is interested in them for whatever reason.

Marriage should only be between a man and a woman is pretty bad. I cite the GOP party platform.

OK. Narrow it down to a single topic or sector and I’ll tell you what the bad conservative postion is, one that would need to sealion to compete in a real argument.

Like always, the enemies of the reactionary possess all characteristics at once. SJWs and assorted woke people are at the same time argumentative, overly vocal and shouting down [del]assholes[/del]persecuted cis white men, but at the same time devious and reluctant to identify themselves or explain their worldview at any length. Crafty buggers.

You don’t think that.

Define man or woman.

What’s the GOP’s definition?

I don’t know anymore. I don’t even know what is is.

I have a 5th grade science class and one of the kids spends the entire 40 minutes thinking of question after question after question. The problem is that he doesn’t think about the answers or ask actual followup questions. He’s obviously not that interested in learning more, he just likes to waste time.

Since I’m the “mod” of that class, then it was easy enough to fix. He gets one question per day.

So you’re saying you are out of touch/ill informed of your party’s stance? If so, I applaud your self realization, and perhaps i might see hope for your and America’s future.