No, they are not “investigating links”, which implies that there are links. Read your own cite. The are looking to see if there are any links. Of course, FoxNews is generally not accepted as a cite by many poster here. Unless, of course, you think their reporting supports your argument in some way.
Uh, John? First link is to Politico, second to the org’s actual website.
What a load of crap.
No, no violence against the Roma inspired by anti-Roma rhetoric. No Right politicians in the EU actually on trial for hate speech that could be construed as inciting violence. No parties on the Right using a terror attack as talking point against multiculturalism. Nope you are above it all. You are so civilized. You are so full of crap.
Incidentally, we have had the same rhetoric–of portraying whites as being besieged by an insidious coalition of the Left and racial minorities-- right here on the SDMB, care of our very own LP:
Historically, this has been the primary strategy of white supremacists: to justify violence against blacks and other minorities by claiming to be protecting the white race.
God, yes. As has been said before, even if he isn’t in some way associated with extremists that doesn’t mean the violent rhetoric that has been used recently is okay. It’s still gasoline being tossed in the direction of lit crazies.
The links are his mentioning AR in some of his internet postings. That is a link. DHS is investigating that link to see if it goes further. But the link is already demonstrated.
I do want to emphasize this for those who don’t get it yet: the issue is, as Peeta just expressed it, the spraying the gasoline rhetoric in the direction of the lit crazies. It so happens that those getting the big fire hoses to spray it with are those on the Right; those who speak like that on the Left are limited to obscure message boards like this one and maybe some anarchist 'zines. If Michael Moore was calling for gunning down Sarah Palin … as a rhetorical device … if Ed Schultz was doing it … then they would also deserve our disgust. But they are not.
Are any of you fucking sanctimonious lefties decent enough to admit that this incident has nothing to do with the Tea Party, Republicans, or right wing radio yet? Because it doesn’t. The shooter is a seriously disturbed guy, but was not politically motivated. All the broad brush smears on anybody to the right of John Lennon are embarrassing, even from the usual suspects like D_T and Dio.
Are you in denial about the aforementioned incendiary rhetoric that implicitly incites violence? Do you not think that it very well could inspire something like this?
And how in the world is specifically mentioning Palin, Bachman, Angle, etc. along with specific quotes a “broad brush smear on anybody to the right of John Lenning”?
What would you know of decency? The natural constituency of the Tea Party is the mentally disturbed, who are easy to motivate with messages of fear, hate and images of violence. If it weren’t for lunatics, the right wing extemist message would wither and die.
Can you quote the part of your cite that says that? I read it twice, and didn’t see it.
Can you be decent enough to get it through your fucking thick skull the rhetoric used by some on Right Wing radio plays a role in getting seriously disturbed people to act and that that sort of rhetoric is irresponsible no matter what side is using it?
Learn to spell, dumbass. John Lennon. Not Lenning. Of course, that error illustrates the lack of intellectual rigor you and others of your ilk display when desperately trying to spin this into the fault of your political opponents.
Admit it. This shooter was not motivated by politics.
I am prepared to concede that the shooter may not have been motivated by the calls to violence by the Right.
But even if he was not, the issue is larger than this single incident. We do have people who have large audiences ‘suggesting’ a ‘Second Amendment remedy’. Cites have been posted several times in this thread. There are people on the Right who believe that anyone who disagrees with their positions are ‘socialists’, ‘communists’, and ‘traitors’, and who propound armed resistance against people who want to ‘take away our freedom’. There have, in the past, been instances of political assassination in this country.
Whether or not the shooter was motivated by these hate-mongers, those people need to tone down the rhetoric.
Cite?
It looks to me like he’s going to turn out to be the paranoid schizophrenic type, but there seems to be a lot of politics in his paranoia.
You don’t know that, no matter how much you may wish it to be true. All the evidence is to the contrary, you fucking irresponsible rightie.
Holy shit. Seriously, you’re pulling the “you made a typo, you are dumb and wrong” card? You are a fucking waste.
It is pretty damn pathetic.
This is a fucking pathetic, substance free post, even for you.
ETA that’s two votes for “pathetic”
No, I’m pulling the you, personally, are a worthless piece of shit card. Not only for your completely unfounded wild eyed ranting in this thread. You utterly fail as a human being, with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. I have less respect for you than I do for Der Trihs. Or Dio.