Did she learn that technique from Boehner?
Apparently, he learned it straight from the crocodile.
Seriously, this contrition is not believable.
Fair enough. Both of them are stupid and misrepresent Jefferson’s comment. I just can’t get behind this whole “ALL REPUBLICANS worship Sarah Palin/Rush Limbaugh/Whomethefuckever” meme. It just isn’t true.
Just because a politician from either side of whatever spews nonsense doesn’t mean you have to believe it. And shame on the stupid voters that elected irresponsible fools. I blame apathy instead. It allows politicians the invulnerable feeling that they can say or do whatever they want without accountability.
To be clear, I’m not saying that political activists advocating violence are to blame for the actions of someone who appears to be an actual lunatic, but to say “no Republican leaders are advocating taking up guns and resorting to violence against their opponents” is unfortunately easily refutable.
Glenn Beck does a skit about poisoning Nancy Pelosi
Palin: “Don’t Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!”
[BECK: “The pieces that the president needs to control every aspect of your life, to fundamentally transform America, will be finished. He’ll have them all,” adding: “If health care does not pass, warning, those on the left are going to become violent.” [The Glenn Beck Program, 3/5/10]
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Note that Julius Streicher, who was convicted at Nuremberg, never actually said to kill this Jew or that Jew. All he did was call them scum, blood-sucker, devils, demons, threats to the country, traitors to the nation, and so forth.
But politicians who do use violent rhetoric should absolutely have their noses rubbed in it when one of the targets of that rhetoric gets shot in the head.
Note that Julius Streicher, who was convicted at Nuremberg, never actually said to kill this Jew or that Jew. All he did was call them scum, blood-sucker, devils, demons, threats to the country, traitors to the nation, and so forth.
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Thank you for the reply.
What is it that Glenn Beck uses, Vap-o-rub? Or maybe she wears contacts, and managed to fold one in half while rubbing her eye.
I still fail to see how quoting an idiot named Glenn Beck that has a TV show proves anything other than that the most vehement of his followers are in fact, idiots. And incapable of thinking for themselves. And if one of them takes him at his word, how that makes Beck responsible for the actions of a crazy person, let alone the stances of an entire wing of politicians in America.
The guy’s favorite book is listed as The Communist Manifesto, so I’m not seeing a right-wing nutcase.
But then again everyone is calling him “very disturbed”
It could be a case of ‘Know thy enemy.’
I’m sorry. I thought I was rather clear. I feel that however well intentioned your defense of those who have fostered a climate of violence for political or financial gain (regardless of political party), it is wrong. You’re making excuses for them.
A fine piece of over the top rhetoric on your part. As there doesn’t seem to be a point to it, I’ll just leave it to stand perfectly by itself.
I’m not blaming the republicans. Not as a whole. Not as a party. I’m blaming specific people (already listed repeatedly in this very thread) who have used the rhetoric to foster their own interests. Does that make you feel better?
And you wouldn’t be convinced unless you had video proof and/or statements signed and notarized that stated “I believe the murder of my political opponents to be a good and proper thing” signed by those people. So why bother really?
I may be wrong. This guy may have also been trying to impress Jodie Foster, though if she isn’t impressed by presidential assasination I don’t think a lowly senator will do the trick. Maybe he’s just the star of his own personal action movie and the senator is responsible for the death of his brother/martial arts tutor. Maybe he just woke up this morning and Tony the Tiger said that political violence is “GRRRRRREAT!” If that’s the case, post a pit thread with my name in it and I’ll apologize to you for ever doubting you or questioning you. I’ll even apologize for my rush to judgement.
What it won’t change is that we have had incidents of violence and intimidation towards political figures and that certain people have been pushing inflammatory rhetoric to further their own ends and not those of a specific political party. I know that this isn’t an action of a monolithic political party regardless of what comes to light in this case. This is a violent whackjob. I’d say the same thing even if Michael Steele had been the one to do it, though he would’ve popped a cap in her because he’s street.
And Mein Kampf. Kind of all over the place ideologically speaking, at least on a traditional right wing/left wing spectrum.
I doubt it, and I also doubt that he is committed to Communist philosophy or any kind of philosophy.
People like this guy often like any kind of book that claims to have society all figured out.
Okay, once more:
The aforementioned Republican elected officials have endorsed his and others’ lunatic ideas, like death panels. Bachmann, herself a member of the U.S. Congress, questioned the loyalty of others in the chamber and suggested hearings on un-American activities.
As for Glenn Beck himself, well, he knows that his legions of fans are mindless morons who follow his command. If, knowing this, he suggests they do something, how is he not responsible?
And, for comparison, I have pointed out that that uber-evil Nazi propagandist Julius Streicher, who we all presumably agree was responsible for the German atrocities, never said that any one Jew should be killed. He merely demonized them, made them appear treacherous and inhuman enemies. Or is he not responsible for anything either?
No problem.
The ad on the top of my page is for “Front Sight Firearm Training institiute”. I’m not sure how much control the sdmb has over ad content, but that’s really turning my stomach at the moment.
It is being reported that Gifford’s father, on the way into the hospital, was asked if his daughter had any enemies, and he replied, “Yeah, the whole Tea Party.”
I am sure he is just distraught.
Exactly.
FoieGrasIsEvil, I should also like to add that I do agree with you that blaming the republican party as a whole is slightly insane. That the people making these statements happen to be republican and/or share some political views with them has nothing to do with the shooting itself. Where I disagree with you is that the words of these people in prominence do have an effect. As I said, none of the statements, rallies, facebook signs, etc. happened in a vacuum. I believe that they do accumulate and will continue to do so.
And I never said that, or anything like it!
I specifically condemned those individuals. NEVER did I imply that the Republican party as a whole is at fault.
Nope, the facebook page with the crosshairs is still up. That rotten cunt has never admitted a single error, so don’t expect her to start now.