You do you, man.
I understood your comment as dismissing one side of the issue (the one DA supports) and reacted accordingly. I’m happy to find out I was wrong.
If only everyone followed this rule! Imagine how much better politics would be.
Today I earned that “historically marginalized and economically deficient minorities are underrepresented at the top school in the state; we should fix this” is equivalent to “Jews will not replace us”…
Today I learned that white people who live in the richest county in America are a ““historically marginalized and economically deficient minority.”
Since they’re not the ones this policy is trying to help, all I’ve really learned is that you lack reading comprehension.
You must be new to the discussion. The entire problem is the mass exchange of qualified Asian applicants for whites who can’t pass the test. The school will go from majority “Asians who can pass the test” to majority “whites who can’t pass the test” overnight.
If they had just added 20 seats to every admitted class and reserved them for the 20 top-scoring black students on the admissions exam, absolutely nobody would care. In theory there should be no role for race in admissions at all but there are certain costs of doing business in American society and that sort of narrowly tailored AA that doesn’t jeopardize opportunities for everyone else isn’t worth getting upset about. That and many other ways to help black representation were proposed. But they had to blow up the entire notion of merit admissions because this is about screwing the Asians and selling the plan to whites who can’t cut it on merit.
No, it isn’t. Do you have any evidence for this whatsoever?
Everything that the VA education secretary and Fairfax school board have said and done for the past six months.
So it should be easy to find a cite where one of these people says “this program is not intended to help minority children. We are trying to help white kids at the expense of Asian kids”.
You could literally cite anything at all that came out of their mouth in the last six months to prove your case, according to you. So… go right ahead.
I’m not going to re-enact the entire thread for you because you don’t feel like reading it. Start with post 633 if you want something from today. If you still want to play this game start back at post 1 and try to take notes so you don’t forget.
Got it, you got nothing. Cool, thanks.
Not sure how to check post 633 in a 528 response thread so ya know.
? Your post is #652
OH! I see what’s going on. Some Discourse weirdness - I know how to fix it.
Not that I agree with what ZosterSandstorm is claiming, but whites are also significantly underrepresented at the school, and the methods chosen to fix the problem are almost certain to also increase white admissions at the expense of Asian. This isn’t the sort of affirmative action I ever expected progressives to support.
As other schools showed, the world does not end.
I certainly don’t deny that happened - I’m sure it did. Do you have a transcript that shows the context of these comments? My expectation is that when they’re concerned about the “demographics not being reflective” of the community they are concerned about the miniscule proportion of black and hispanic students rather than any kind of hatred of Asians.
I dont know - do you have a transcript of what she said? Is her issue that Asians are overrepresented, or that black and hispanic kids are underrepresented?
Calling people who disagree with you “motherfuckers” is certainly inappropriate, especially in a professional context. I don’t see how this is evidence of anti-Asian racism though.
That sounds like an offensive speech regardless of who she was talking about. Do you have a transcript that shows the context of these quotes?
I’m not sure I follow your maths here. How many apply currently and how many get in, and are you assuming the applicant pool will be significantly bigger?
Also, admissions are based on performance on a test by middle schoolers. Sorry, but that has WAY more to do with your parents and how able and willing they are to invest time and money in tutoring you for this test than any kind of objective measure of ability or intelligence.
This shows that you miss the point of affirmative action, as demographics show, there will a moment where minorities will become majorities in the USA.
Not wanting AA to eventually benefit whites in a world that changes like that, can give us the spectacle of minority groups that are gaining power, with elites from a former minority that could choose to feed the wrong wolf.
Now that the tables are turning, one has to remain fair, to not let even Hispanic groups like the ones I belong to, to fall for extremists that some day could say: “We have ours, and forget them”.
A large part of the reason that black and Hispanic kids are so underrepresented is that Asians are overrepresented at the school. But affirmative action is intended to counteract racism, and it seems rather unlikely that this situation of a minority dominating magnet school admissions is the result of racism favouring them.