Not an act of self-defense by any stretch of the imagination. You don’t get to get up and go after someone and call it self-defense.
Motherfucker do that shit to me, he better paralyze my ass, ‘cause I’ll kill the motherfucker, know what I’m sayin’?
I started googling toot suite. I found this. It appears to be some kind of manifesto for his movement. I’ve already ordered mine.
Clothahump, that was a hell of an uppercut. Did you hear the wet, sucking, sickening thud that resonated through the bus? Listen here…just because a person can take a hell of a punch doesn’t mean a hell of a punch wasn’t thrown. My husband said, "Damn! When she got off the floor, it sounded like she said, “Mitt Romney! You got me fucked up!”
She was dazed and confused.
I’m not really sure what you’re getting at here.
Self defense is not the only defense to battery. It is a subset of the defense of justification, which can take several forms. One of them is provocation, which is a complete defense to simple battery in many jurisdictions.
There no “provocation” defense. That’s not correct.
Jesus Christ!
On a pogo-stick!
If someone spits on me, that’s a battery. Would I not be legally justified in escalating the battery to the point of causing (or threatening to cause) great bodily harm to the other person? If I can throw a haymaker at someone who doesn’t have their dukes up, I would presume I could legally use other forms of escalating force in self defense… right?
I looked through it on the Google books thing, and the humor is… well, not as amusing as his other posts.
Leave the scribe’s work to the scribes.
The bus driver was not defending himself. It is not enough for spitting to be definable as a “battery.” That does not make retaliation into self-defense. That is not what self-defense means. There has to be an immediate, ongoing threat, not just some history of having spit on you.
No. Spitting is an offensive battery, as distinguished from a *harmful *one, and thus does not justify violence in self-defense. It may justify violence on some other basis.
Next you’re going to say I can’t legally strangle someone who is being obnoxious! That’s just crazy.
Well, I won’t stop you.
We need to merge this with the jury nullification thread.
Or let him use the “laws against punching some bitch are bogus” defense.
I think spitting is considered a harmful battery because of the possibility of passing a disease around, in these body-fluid-fearing days.
That would still not constitute an immediate danger requiring force. No matter how you slioce it, this action was purely retaliatory, not defensive. You can’t punch a kid in the face because she might have given you a cold.
You can’t even punch her in the face if she might have given you HIV - unless she is continuing to spit in your face even while you wind up to take a swing.
Is it confirmed she only spit on him? The Daily Mail claims she hit him Cleveland bus driver caught on video punching unruly female passenger | Daily Mail Online
You cannot see what she does when she approaches the driver. When he stands up, he says “You’re going to jail now!” then clocks her.
Of course, the appropriate action would have been to stop the bus and call the police. If she did hit him, he might have been too hot to have been thinking clearly, although that might not excuse his action.
It doesn’t matter. When he got up and went over to hit her, she wasn’t doing anything. At that moment he was not defending himself. Retaliation is not self-defense.
HIV cannot be transmitted through saliva.