What I don’t understand is, why the driver isn’t segregated from the passengers. Surely, for their protection it would make sense to give the driver a barrier. Like this (scroll down).
The video can be contrasted with the Epic Beard Man bus fight - YouTube
With EBM, it was two grown men, and EBM was reacting to being struck by the other passenger.
Sure there is. It’s called “Bitch deserved it.” If I’m on the jury, there’s gonna be at least one steadfast not guilty vote.
Fair enough. Pick any number of other infectious diseases that can be transmitted through saliva - herpes, TB, etc.
Ugh, nothing epic about that man.
I have a question about this pressing charges business. Does the victim in an assault actually have to press charges to allow the prosecutor to go forward with the case? Or is it that prosecutors generally don’t care to move forward with assault cases if the victim is not cooperating?
Depends. See this thread (“How much say does a victim have in pressing charges?”).
She was 25. Not a teenager.
According to the driver she choked and spit on him while he was trying to drive the car.
I agree, that he should of (roughly) tried to get her off the bus. And when she (inevitably) fought back, well that’s upper cut time.
She also apparently took 4 bullets to the face and was stabbed in a robbery. No wonder she got up from the punch so quick.
She wasn’t fighting back.
I was describing what should of happened, IMHO, not what actually took place. Not much fighting back after a punch like that anyways
Yes she was. When she got thrown off she got back on and attacked him again. And then after they were seperated she initiated the fight again.
Why do you keep saying things that are contradictory to reality?
Bitch got what she deserved.
I think We should forgive him, he didn’t know what he was doing.
This is a ludicrous circumlocution. She was not fighting back or threatening him when he battered her.
If, she did indeed hit him while he was seated and driving the bus, then she fought and he fought back. He didn’t need to sit there and see if she would hit him again. He stood up, took one step toward her and POW! If she didn’t want a fight, she shouldn’t have hit him, assuming that she did. IOW, don’t start none, won’t be none.
If bitches didn’t spit on and choke the drivers these things wouldn’t happen, so what’s the problem?
It doesn’t actually work this way in the adult world. Self-defense does need certain criteria to be a defense. and the criteria was not met in this place, The driver was not defending himself. The bus was not in motion. The victim was not attacking him. The driver was free to leave the bus if he was really so afraid of her.
Beautiful, just…
beautiful!
A world in which the constant threat of violence enforced politeness would be a terrible place. I’d feel the same about a world in which a large portion of the populace insisted that they needed a gun at all times for protection. Count me out.
The fact that you refer to a woman as a “bitch” is also quite telling.
Not even that combo he unleashed?
So, leaving aside whether she “deserved it” or anything, let’s turn to actual self-defense here. Here’s a scenario (I’m making it more rigid than the one presented, because the video is not clear enough re: what she did to the driver before and after the uppercut):
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Person A punches Person B, who is sitting down; then Person A steps back a few feet, holds her hands in a fighting posture, and continues to verbally threaten Person B
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Person B stands up, walks over to Person A, and punches Person A right in the face.
Is Person B acting in self-defense? I know we start to get into a LOT of particulars and judgment calls. Could Person B have reasonably fled the scene and gotten the police? Was Person B in real danger from an individual of Person A’s stature? Etc. But I think the point we’re hung up on here is this: Exactly how much time has to elapse between the first strike and the responding strike before it is not appropriate? Esp. if Person A still maintains a fighting posture? One second? Five seconds? Ten seconds?