Hard to say for sure what it would do in those particular situations. But there are examples of it doing that general sort of thing. For instance, there is a single-lane narrowing here, and FSD slows down a bit to let the other car pass, then goes for it itself:
Not related, but your chickens are safe:
In general, it does have a more flexible notion of a lane than previous versions. It will give space to other traffic if necessary, but also take space (like crossing a yellow line) when needed. It’s pretty good about this sort of thing. It also gives extra room to pedestrians and bicyclists, even if they’re staying in their lane.
Had some odd behavior with v12 tonight. On a residential street I was driving down, it pulled in behind a parked car, and waited… I gave it a bit of encouragement with the go pedal, and the car moved forward, but FSD didn’t try to steer around the parked car, and as soon as I took my foot off the pedal, the car stopped.
This particular street has a 90 degree curve at the end, but today’s problem happened on the straight part of the street. Last week FSD pulled up behind a parked car right at the curb, and put on its turn signal. Then, pressing the accelerator convinced FSD to go around the parked car and take the curve.
I mentioned to my wife that this is the new AI based v12. She said it might be A, but it’s not I.
I had a similar thing happen yesterday. I coaxed it over and it continued.
I had a different problem yesterday as well. We were entering a freeway with two lanes and one of those one car per green lights. The lights were turned off and it got confused and just stopped. I tapped the accelerator and it went on as normal.
That is my interpretation of what happened last week. It is a 90 degree curve, though, not an intersection, so cars park in what could be easily interpreted as a right turn lane, though lanes aren’t marked. The more recent stop behind a parked car happened on the straight part of the street, five houses or so away from the curve.
The older FSD software used to get really confused by any round light shaped thing on the side of the road. School zone signs, railroad crossing signs, temporary construction zone warning signs, etc. It still makes mistakes, but is generally much better than it was a year or two ago.
The whole over-the-air software update thing is an enormously powerful innovation in itself. Not least for the subsequent upsell possibilities it enables.
I can rent FSD for $200/month which I might do for vacations so I’m excited to try it a bit more now that 12 is coming out. We live in the land of 2-way undivided highways and basic Autopilot phantom brakes too often. Even in town with the cruise set at 28 (yes, I use it a lot) I’ve had it hard brake when a semi went by. I’m hoping 12 will slow down those events.
I wish I could pay for the occasional “acceleration boost” (it’s a $2K upgrade) for when I demo the car to friends and family. The acceleration has been a crowd pleaser and hopefully it doesn’t damage the car (I don’t do it too often). BTW, my family and my wife’s family are very conservative and were anti-EV (I think they thought we were nuts to buy the car). I think most of them think the car is viable and “cool” now. And, when I get in their modern deluxe ICEs, I start sweating looking at all the button, switches and knobs. Holy sensory overload! I find our Tesla easy to use…not something I would’ve expected before I got one.
of course that also comes with the dark side of being dangerously close to “not really owning the car” … if they can downgrade/lock you out, etc… (thinking of the nightmare scenario of paypal freezing your account with $500 in it … and all you have is info@baybal.com)
any word on how hard it is to pull the SIM chip in those? … I assume with all the tech bros driving one that should have been tried many times …
True for just about every modern car. Pretty much all of them are connected. GM’s OnStar has been able to remotely shut down your car (in case of theft, etc.) since 2009. But they pretty much all have the ability now.
Dunno about the SIM card, but you can always remove the antenna. It’s easy enough. The car doesn’t need it, but you’ll obviously lose some features.
And… like it or not, but this is the way everything is going. Gadgets, cars, software, even appliances… all dependent on the good will (and financial stability) of the manufacturer.
smart /easy /obv. move with the antennae … (I sometimes get tunnel vision solving problems and miss more obv. solution - hate it when this happens ;-))
… ohh … and hate the whole “you don’t own it / you are only subscribed to a service” … no, that shit doesn’t fly with me … I am resisting for as long as I can …
I procure and deploy IT SAAS solutions. They all lock you in. Not just my car. At least I don’t see my car holding a 5% increase hostage rate, year after year. Yet…
I just did a 20 mile FSD trip from my suburban house to a destination in Denver. That included residential streets, freeways, and urban/industrial streets.
I did not have to disengage FSD a single time. I did have to intervene quit a bit by adjusting the set speed, and initiating or canceling lane changes. It didn’t have to do anything too challenging, but it did mostly succeed on its own.
I really hope they get the v12 speed issue fixed before the trial, because they won’t sell many $12k upgrades for a system that insists on going 17 in a 30.
I’ve discovered that FSD needs a fair amount of tweaks here and there. I just consider it part of FSD driving and it keeps me engaged which is safer. With me at the wheel, it’s still much easier than “real” driving and safer for the rest of humanity.
There’s an interesting point where it looks like it might be clear, and creeps forward a bit, but it turns out there’s still traffic. It ends up going on the yellow light.
It appears it didn’t pull into the nearest lane as it should of, true? But, beyond that, yes, it seemed to do good. How nervous do you get letting your car handle an intersection like that on a 1-10 shitting bricks scale?
Seems like it was in the correct lane (the suicide lane, between the pair of double yellows).
I don’t see too many of those huge unprotected lefts around here, so I haven’t had a chance to get a feel for my confidence. But as a human driver, that’s at least a 5.
I was referring to the lane it turned into as it completed the turn. In the screenshot below, it appears it should’ve turned into the nearest lane I indicated in blue in both the video and the rendering, but it pulled into the lane to the right.
And yes, that’s a solid 5-6 for my own driving. A lot to pay attention to.
