Senator Toricelli & Ruling Class Justice

The BBQ Pit
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Mr. Toricelli,

Admonishment? Beam me up! The hypocrisy that continues to come wafting out of that sludge hole on the east end of the mall both disgusts and aggravates me.

Let’s see,

After serving in (and being called in front of the ethics committee of) the House of Representatives, you become a Senator from NJ. In your 1st term in that esteemed institution of debate working mainly as a professional fund-raiser you get caught taking gifts such as clothing, electronics and furnishings from a fat cat Democrat who needed some favors done.

When the story first breaks you rant and rave about a smear job and call your accusers liars. Several members of your staff are found guilty. The briber in question, Mr. Chang gets sentenced. You, with probably some assistance from political operatives in the DOJ, aren’t even brought to trial.

Your buddies, behind the closed doors of the Senate ethics committee, come up with this kangaroo-court type admonishment. Titter, titter Bobby. Don’t you know you’re supposed to take your bribes in the form of cash or junkets? We’ll let it slide this time being that you’re kind of new to this body.

I don’t like it, I don’t like it one bit.

Here’s my admonishment to you, something I’ll tell you right to your face when I see you in that luxury box at the Meadowlands this September:

You’re a liar and a thief. Worse than Van Kill River sludge. Your disgusting denial and craftily worded apology a year later show you for what you really are. You don’t deserve a single vote this November. It’s too late for a primary challenge so I guess the people of the Garden State are stuck with you on the ballot. Why not do the decent thing and drop out of the race?

Either that or maybe you or one of your pied-piperette supporters could explain this to me:

A crime known as bribery was committed. In order for a bribe to exist, there has to be a payer and a payee. The payer in your case is behind bars.

You, on the other hand as the admitted payee, got a “Too powerful & Too Connected For Equal Justice Pass” and walked away with proverbial smack on the wrist. Why is one participant in this crime locked-up and the more disgusting participant in the same act still seated in the Senate?

Now matter how you slice it, that my friend is a prime example of unequal justice.

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Remember Democrats = Good. Repulicans = Bad. Clinton got away with it. Packwood got the boot. They both did essentially the same thing. Don’t expect the press to persue this. They are just liberal hypocrites. Next time vote Rebulican. Anything is better than having this crook in office.

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FTR, the guy who is running against Torricelli was under investigation for having laundered money from his business into his campaign. He won’t release his tax forms either, leading some to believe he has something to hide (not necessarily correctly, though). Not like you have much of a choice there. The original frontrunner for the Republican nomination had to drop out when the FBI raided his offices. You’d think that in Jersey you would be used to this by now. You’ve probably had more elected officials go to jail per capita than any other state.

Trob, Packwood had sexual harassment charges against him. Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice. Though they both involved sex, they’re not the same thing. Do you have a cite on “liberal hypocrites?”

Torricelli’s a dumbass, no two ways about it. Not all Dems are like him though.

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Dunno about that Trob… I think people should avoid reelecting politicians with no ethics. Or better yet don’t elect them in the first place.

And I don’t really think calling the press liberal hypocrites is fair… I haven’t seen much or any mainstream press coverage some of the truely scary civil rights violating bills that Bush is trying to push through… There wasn’t and isn’t now much of a debate over how ethical the treatment of the detainees has been.

Fighting Terrorism is not a reason to revoke the rights of the citizens of any country… Isn’t terrorism’s goal supposed to be to remove the rights of citizens?

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Anybody who takes clothing, even a good cloth coat, or household furnishings, even a pet, while a United States Senator is just outright evil.

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It’s noteworthy that the Bergen Record called for his resignation. Toricelli is from Bergen County, and the Record is a liberal paper. http://www.bergen.com/page.php?level_3_id=35&page=4482965

By comparison, the New York Times merely complained that he didn’t apologize properly. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/01/opinion/01THU1.html

I do not expect him to resign. It will be interesting to see whether the Record, New York Times and other liberal media endorse him for re-election. My guess is that the Times will and the Record won’t.

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Trob, Packwood had sexual harassment charges against him. Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice. Though they both involved sex, they’re not the same thing. Do you have a cite on “liberal hypocrites?”

Where did all of the Clinton perjury stuff start? Paula Jones filed a sexual harassment suit against sick Willie right? So both of these involved sex. And what did the liberal media say??? “Well it’s just sex” “It is a personal matter”. These statements apply to both Packwood and Clinton. Who got the boot? Like I said hypocrites. And the NOW gang is just as hypocritical. They wanted Bob’s head on a platter but Billy boy got a pass.

As to the sad state of New Jersy politicians maybe you could start a write in campaign for Bill the Cat.

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Yeah, Trob, Gary Condit really got a free pass from the “liberal media”, huh?

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Actually, it was with Whitewater.

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Whitewater? What?? The perjury was from a taped deposition in the Paula Jones case.

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Isn’t Condit still in office?
Whitewater? What?? The perjury was from a taped deposition in the Paula Jones case.

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Excerpts from his Mea Culpa ad running on TV, from the 8/2/02 Bergen Record.

Torch, you’re a piece of garbage. This has NOTHING to do with partisan ideology, this has to do with your corruption.

You “broke no laws” ? MY ASS. Chang’s doing time for giving you bribes. You took his bribes. Payolla, cut & dry.

He’s behind bars for the next year and a half for bribing you. You got away with your crime that’s now being covered-up(*). All while spending other donors $ in a gloss-over PR campaign.

You rolled around in shit and now you smell like it. Ba Fongu.

(*)Sen. Daniel Inouye, who chaired the Ethics Committee investigation, said the panel will not release transcripts or other documents it reviewed before issuing a letter of “severe admonishment” to Torricelli on Tuesday.

Unfortunately, political corruption will be with us forever in all levels of government. The only way to begin to control it is by limiting both the power and the perks that come to those in office.

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You said start. Ken Starr was originally hired as the Whitewater special prosecutor. I guess you look at it a different way. Paula Jones got her settlement so she would just shut up and she was happy that she could finally get the nose she always wanted. A judge ruled that Jones’s claims were baseless and that, even if they were true, they still wouldn’t have been grounds for sexual harassment. OTOH, Packwood resigned after the Senate Ethics Committee recommended that he be expelled. 29 women came forward saying he had improper sexual contact with them in the office.

Condit’s still in office, but got creamed in a primary election by a CA state rep. Anyone who saw any news item related to him would know that the press tore into him.

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Sorry about the double post.

My point remains that the press has a double standard when it comes to evil Republicans. Condit was a creap and should have been booted. But so was Billy and he deserved the same. Women deserve better and if you whip it out and say kiss it we do not need you to have your finger on the button. Why because it speaks to poor judgement. If you cannot be trusted in small matters then you cannot be trusted in great matters.

And let us not forget Clarence Thomas. A couple of dick jokes and a Long Dong Silver reference and he is a pariah. Billy is accused of rape and the press laughed it off. Where is the balance?

Do you need more examples?

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Sorry about the double post.

My point remains that the press has a double standard when it comes to evil Republicans. Condit was a creap and should have been booted. But so was Billy and he deserved the same. Women deserve better and if you whip it out and say kiss it we do not need you to have your finger on the button. Why because it speaks to poor judgement. If you cannot be trusted in small matters then you cannot be trusted in great matters.

And let us not forget Clarence Thomas. A couple of dick jokes and a Long Dong Silver reference and he is a pariah. Billy is accused of rape and the press laughed it off. Where is the balance?

Do you need more examples?

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Oh, my poor embattled home state. . .

First Florio with the gun bans.

Now this. :rolleyes:

Tripler
Oy vey . . .

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Condit is indeed still in office. But not for long. Didn’t get nominated for reelection. The difference between Condit and Packwood is that Condit was never accused of sexual harassment. Thomas was. Packwood was. Clinton was never accused of rape, as far as I know. If you know differently, provide a cite.

As for Toricelli, remember that Traficant got sent to jail for bribes. The Senate can’t try Toricelli and send him to jail. They really can’t do much EXCEPT admonish him. Give the DoJ time to put their case together. If they haven’t moved in a few months, then complain. It’s not like he’s going anywhere.

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Ew. Ew, ew, ew, ew, ew.

Not disagreeing, mind you. Just Ew.

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Oh how soon we forget:

http://users.aol.com/patriot888/clnrape.htm

Just do a search on Clinton Broaddrick Rape and see what comes up.

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Your two cites don’t show that Clinton raped Broaddrick, and they’re about as right-wing as one can get. It is admitted that only two third parties could allege that it was rape and not merely consentual intercourse (as both Clinton and Broaddrick have said that it was not a rape). One, Phillip Yoakum, was found to be “entirely uncredible.” So this comes down to one possibly credible person with no physical evidence against the two parties, who both deny it. And we should believe that Clinton raped Broaddrick because…