Serenity (Open spoilers a plenty! You've been warned!))

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Box office figures suck. Serenity has dropped to 17th place, and is now only paying in 837 theaters (down from 2189). It’s only brought in a total of $24 million domestically, and it will be a miracle if it breaks $30 million. The movie cost $40 million to make, and another $20 million to promote, so it’s going to be a money loser at the box office.

Overall, it will probably make a profit, because I suspect the DVD will sell millions of copies. Add in the TV rights. But it’s nowhere near the success Universal hoped for. I read somewhere that Universal was hoping for $80 million internationally, and the industry estimated it at 50 million. So it didn’t even come close to industry estimates.

I’d say the odds of a theatrical sequel are not great, but not zero.

Wow, what did they do with the $20 million dollars to promote it? I haven’t seen one television commercial, heard a single radio ad, or passed by a single billboard. They didn’t get their money’s worth there. I’m disappointed with the box office take. It seems like even if only the diehard fans of the show saw the movie once each, it would make more than it has. It should be a breakout hit by now dammit!

BTW, did we ever figure out why Mal got the shot from Simon at the beginning of the movie? I’d prefer not to wade through all 500 posts here to find out.

Broad-spectrum antibiotic, for planet-fall.

Advertising includes things like billboards, posters, those cardboard displays you see in theaters, etc. Serenity actually got a fair amount of TV ad ccoverage before the movie came out. The reason you haven’t seen many since is because Universal pulled a lot of its ads off the air after a lackluster opening two weeks. Had Serenity done better, more would have been spent. You would have seen that second round of ads that quote the critics and talk about it being a 'Smash Hit" or whatever. Those got pulled, so almost no more ads.

I don’t know what it is about Firefly. I had this same feeling when the show was on the air. It was like, “Why aren’t people WATCHING this?” I really thought that after it found that huge audience on DVD and got all that internet buzz, it was going to be a big hit. And it should have. The critics loved it, and the audiences loved it. It has the best word of mouth I’ve seen in a long time for a movie, and its got a huge genre appeal. But no one’s going to see it.

We’ll have to hope for it to be ‘discovered’ on DVD.

HEY! Don’t call Kaylee’s ship junk!

The local theatre just got “Serenity”. I had been hoping to see it sooner, because of the terrific reviews and great word-of-mouth. I have never seen “Firefly”, nor “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” for that matter. I finally saw “Serenity” tonight.

It was rather bad.

It wasn’t terrible. And the first 10 or 15 minutes made for a great opening with wonderful promise. But the film quickly fell apart into clichés and more cheese than you’d find in Wisconsin. The ending, when the Operative has a sudden change of heart so that the majority of the crew survives, did not convince me at all and seemed too pat.

I think this movie was definitely made for fans of “Firefly”. This is great for those fans. I, however, found that I couldn’t work up much sympathy for most of the characters. When Wash died, it seemed to me to be just another action-movie moment where a character dies and someone is sad about them for a second or two then kicks ass to avenge them. He had, what, a half-dozen lines the whole movie? I didn’t hate him or anything, but I certainly wasn’t given any real reason to like him either.

Mal - The captain was pretty cool, but I kept thinking, “There’s only one Han, dude, and there ain’t no wookie by your side. Stop trying.” I liked him the best overall though.

River - Hokey, hokey hokey! She’s 100 lbs or less and can toss people around like rag dolls? I was told that “Firefly” was relatively accurate when it came to science, but somehow the laws regarding mass of objects seem to have been revoked. Plus, I’ve always hated the cliché of the super-duper warrior dude(ette) who can take down dozens of people without breaking a sweat. This sometimes works in a fantasy setting like “Star Wars” or “Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon”, but otherwise it’s just cheesy. (And sometimes when it’s cheesy it at least looks cool, but there wasn’t anything special about the fight scenes in “Serenity”.)

Simon - After the opening bits, he really didn’t have much to do. I liked the little I saw of him, but there really wasn’t much insight into his character other than that he wants to protect his sister. He’s mostly a blank to me.

Jayne - He had some good lines. And some bad ones. I kinda liked him overall.

The engineering/mechanic chick - I get it. You want to get boned. Get over it. Quite annoying.

Wash’s wife - I know she has/had a husband and she’s a soldier. That’s it.

Book - I know he’s old and apparantly religious. I assume that he has helped the Serenity crew on previous occassions. His death was, of course, the “I’ll stay alive just long enough to give final advice” cliché. Plus, while I don’t enjoy seeing old people die, there wasn’t anything I knew about this old person that made it particularly tragic.

The Operative - Good character, up until the end. I was sort of hoping he’d get a victory of sorts by failing to stop the transmission but killing or capturing the remaining crew.

Mr. Universe - Forget Wisconsin, France doesn’t have cheese this cheesy. The ultimate “hacker” archetype cliché. I really wish that “Hackers” wasn’t the most convincing portrayal of hacking and hackers that I’ve seen on film. It just seems wrong somehow.

That’s just off the top of my head. I’m sure I’m missing somebody.

Things I liked: While some of the lines fell flat, some were great. My favorite was Mal’s, “Well, uh, you can’t!” It was a great delivery. And of course, “Am … am I talking to Miranda now?” and the ensuing look.

Also, the long shot through the ship, showing off the various rooms and areas. This I enjoyed quite a bit. In fact, I wish I’d gotten to see more of the ship from the inside. It looked like the place people really could live in. (As opposed to the clinical look of Star Trek.)

The plot moved along briskly, which was a double-edged sword. Since I barely knew who these people were, it wasn’t always clear to me sometimes why they were doing what they were doing. On the other hand, I didn’t really have time to think about that.

All in all, I’d give it a C.

That is an unfortunate effect of the movie format, I suppose. In a TV series, you can take the time to develop a full cast of characters. In a movie, you really only have time to develop 2 or 3, and that only shallowly. The problem comes in when you’ve got 10 main characters. As a result, they did rely heavily on the character development we’ve already seen on the show. We only had time to see a small part of each character, and often, what we saw wasn’t even the character’s core. Kaylee (the mechanic), for instance, was definitely in pursuit of Simon in the show, and was not adverse to casual sex, but “horniness” was far from being her defining characteristic (more like “cheerfulness”, or “optimism”). And anyone who saw the show loved Wash, making his death very poignant, but as you note, you don’t really see enough of him in the movie to make a connection (did they even show the plastic dinosaurs?).

And I doubt you’ll get much disagreement about Book’s deathbed speech, either… I think we can all agree that that particular cliche needs to be given a decent burial, at a crossroads, with a stake through its heart.

Well, it was the kind of thing Book would say, but I agree it seemed cliched in that context.

And they did show all of Wash’s dinosaurs, lined up on top of the console next to Mal at the end when he was in the pilot’s seat.

First I heard that the Firefly class HAD co-pilot capacity, though. If River can learn it she has the special intuition that Wash had to avoid danger, or at least hit it a glancing blow.

Still absorbing it all. I also know that I’ll be a repeat customer, although now I’ll know when to cover my eyes.

I never saw the TV series and in fact don’t think I have ever watched anything by Josh Whedon, but I really enjoyed this movie.

Yes.

At the end when Mal is talking to River you can see them on the console.

The guy who founded Judo was 100 lbs or less and could toss people around like rag dolls.

Forget the throwing around already.
Worry about the shooting with the eyes closed thing. :slight_smile:

Oh, and the Reavers not shooting her. Worry about that, too.

Huh? She thought she was still playing a game with Kaylee.

I think she fell back on some practice drill she learned at the Alliance facility where she had to memorize the positions of targets at a brief glance, and then hit them all without looking. That’s why she gave the “no power in the 'verse…” speech and grinned while copying Kaylee’s “I got the apple” pose.

This time she won the game.

Jedi Knights could do the same thing, if they were so inclined. :stuck_out_tongue:

We’ve already covered the “Why the Reavers didn’t shoot her” in this thread. Somewhere around post #300, IIRC. :smiley: Short version: they like to torture you first.

Ah, yes, I remember the dinosaurs at the end, but that’s just one more example of a thing which wouldn’t register to someone who never saw the series. Certainly too late for any developing of Wash’s character. I mean, did we see the dinosaurs at all before the Leaf on the Wind?

I noticed them at the very beginning, when Serenity was entering atmo and all hell was breaking loose.

That’s a joke, right? :slight_smile:

Hey, if I can forget that you came up with the idea, then maybe, just maybe, you forgot that you came up with the idea.

That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. :smiley:

I have to go take a nap now…