Serious Question for Gun Owners - NOT POLITICAL

If you know what you want and Walmart has it, feel free to buy it there, but if you have questions, it is far better to go to a local gun store. The clerk at Walmart is likely just a minimum wage shelf-stocker who happened to be assigned to keep an eye out for customers in sporting goods while he stocks his own department. The people at your local gun store deal with people in your situation every day.

The problem is the gun you want to use outdoors at some distance, (My first choice would be an AR-15 if I could afford one, otherwise any medium to high powered semi-auto rifle) is a lot more gun than you want on an inside home defense type situations. Again with my suggestion of a M1 Carbine or a commerical rifle of similar size and power, it may be suboptimal outdoors (and take several shots to drop an aggressive animal) but it’s not vastly too much power indoors.

This was going to be my advice. If you’re a first time buyer, you’re probably better off going to somebody who knows the product. A local gun dealer will know firearms and local laws and will also know the local availability of classes and ranges.

Good points.

Also, I thought I’d address a point of the OP that I don’t think hasn’t yet. Don’t ask the police. They’ll probably tell you not to get a gun, period, just to “let them handle any problems” and they probably don’t have any more experience with home defense type weapons than anyone else.

Really? Why not just put that sound on your Ipod and push play when someone breaks in.
Let us know how that went.:rolleyes:
This is why you don’t ask firearms questions on a general board.
There are some very smart people here, but this topic seems to bring out, well, everyone else.

Obtaining and using a gun is a serious responsibility, and your questions should be addressed to a trained professional, not idiots who just want to join in and be noticed.

As a certified firearms instructor, I am always happy to answer questions such as yours so that you will be properly informed. Please see this linkArtemis gave, and see my post. That way I won’t have to re-type anything.

There are some members here with the knowledge you seek, and then there are others. Since this is a deadly serious topic, I urge you to seek an instructor or two near you and let them guide you instead of trying to determine which of us is which.

You may PM me for further information if you like.

This is good advice. But I don’t think it’s *absolutely mandatory *that a gun owner take such a class. I bought my first rifle 12 years ago, and I learned to use it all on my own. A number of books helped. My favorite was The Art of the Rifle by Jeff Cooper. Learned a lot from that.

In lieu of professional training, a trusted and experienced friend or family member can often suffice.

Good advice on taking a safety class. But I would *never *suggest a handgun as a “go to” weapon for home defense. If a Bad Guy is trying to get in my house (or they’re already in my house), I would never grab a handgun. This is because handguns suck, for the most part; they’re inaccurate and underpowered. I am going to grab a long gun, either a shotgun or rifle.

I’m not a gun expert, but my general sense is that having a gun to “intimidate” is a bad idea. You’d be much better off hiring a foley artist to make noises around your house all night. And forget “wounding”. You aren’t Buffalo Bill, Wild West trick draw artist.

If you plan on using a gun for home defense, it’s pretty much an all-in thing. Like once you have identified a threat (important, by the way), plan on squeezing off shots center o’ mass untill the threat is no longer moving or you are out of bullets.
Also, a Mossberg tactical shotgun might be a bit powerful and unweildy to be blasting around the inside of your house. You might be better off with a Glock or similar 9mm or .45 handgun 9mm.
Assuming the OP isn’t a mentally deranged ex-felon drug addict of course.

A shotgun or a rifle is a horrible thing to clear a house with. Too long and unweildy. Why do you think the military made their weapons shorter? I always see people recommending shotguns for home defense. Unless you are totally confident and experienced in their use it is the worst choice. Long, heavy, awkward and unless you get a semi hard to opperate under stress unless properly trained. And a novice will be scared of the kick.

My advice is to find a range or a Rod and Gun Club that will let you try out different weapons. The best weapon for your purpose is the one you are most comfortable with. And then shoot shoot shoot. Go to the range with it until using it becomes second nature.

Yet.

First of all, I would guess that 95% of gun owners do not have the faintest idea on how to properly clear a house. It is a specialized skill that requires many hours of specialized training. (The only people I know who possess this skill are a few LEOs.) So practically speaking, I do not think that having a long gun would be a detriment for your typical homeowner who is trying to clear his house. Secondly, a homeowner should never try to go out and clear their home with a weapon unless they *absolutely *have to (e.g. children are sleeping downstairs). It is *always *a much better strategy to hide in a bedroom or bathroom and let the Bad Guy come to you. After he opens the door, and you positively identify him as a BG, you blast away…

My Concealed Carry instructor was a former cop and member of the SWAT team. He really stressed that you never go looking for someone in your house. Gather your family in a secure place. Shut the door and wait with the gun drawn and safety off. Bad guy comes in then shoot. It really is a last resort action.

We were even told to keep on driving if we arrive home and see the door open. Or people in the house. Just keep on driving down the street and call 911. Let the cops earn their pay and handle it.

Good Lord, no.

If only that were common wisdom among gun owners, we would have no need for Stand Your Ground laws.

It’s the other way around, actually. If everyone who owned a gun had that common wisdom, Stand Your Ground laws wouldn’t be problematic. Stand Your Ground laws just mean that I don’t have to retreat from a confrontation if I’m in a place where I have a legal right to be. But anyone with a lick of common sense will in fact retreat if they safely can, because who in their right mind wants to risk getting involved in a gunfight?!

Same thing when it comes to clearing my house. I have a legal right to do it - but I’m not that stupid. Even police, who receive special training on how to clear buildings, always try to do it in teams, and they are the first ones to tell you how hellaciously dangerous that job is.

Guns are for when a violent confrontation is unavoidable. In any other situation, putting your feet into high gear is much the best option.

I suppose there’s some truth to the notion of some Rambo wannabe charging downstairs to spray bullets at some punks trying to steal his stereo system, as opposed to holing up in your bedroom with your shotgun and calling the cops. But what if you hear a crash downstairs? Is that the punks trying to steal your stereo or the cat knocking a plate off the shelf again? Are the you going to call the cops to check it out? After 5 calls that turn out to be the cat and some punks break in how long is it going to take the cops to come out at time number 6? Maybe you’re not willing to defend your stereo with deadly force, but what if the punks go to your kids’ bedroom instead of yours where you’re waiting with the shotgun.

Not every shotgun is long. I’ve got one that’s pretty short and still legal. You can get real short ones if you fill out the right forms, like this one. http://www.serbu.com/top/superShorty.php