BTW, Jindal is permanently disqualified by his exhortation
Unless anyone sees a chance of that actually happening.
Your opinion is noted, but since it is stupid, dismissed.
Regards,
Shodan
I remember telling someone over 15 years ago that Kasich was going to be president some day. He has just the right combination of midwestern background, working class upbringing, likable personality, and confident speaking ability. He’s no slouch for smarts, either. (And don’t underestimate the crucial Croatian vote 
.) He strikes me as a sort of kinder, gentler (and better looking) Chris Christy.
He just won a solid re-election campaign and got a good chunk of the Hispanic vote, too. He’s certainly conservative, but not in the crazy camp.
He does have “investment banker” in his resume, which is certainly a negative, and I know he was a FoxNews commentator for awhile-- not sure if the latter had him on record with some of the nutty right-wing stuff that is SOP on that network. And, of course, he’s not exactly a household name.
n.b.: I don’t think he has much of a chance against Hillary, but if she wasn’t running, he’d be a good bet.
So you disagree with Jindal, and like your party the way it is. No surprise there.
Derision,
ElvisL1ves
The Republican base hates Rubio for his immigration “betrayal”, he isn’t getting past the primaries no matter how hard he tries to walk back all his support for any kind of reform.
Eh. Romney had more hates for more reasons and he got past. Now, I’m not saying Rubio is a shoe-in, but too much is made of the idea that so-and-so can’t get past the primaries because of “x”.
The last two GOP nominees were Mitt Romney and John McCain. This idea that only crazy right wingers can get the nomination is not really related to what has actually happened.
Granted, and I’d absolutely agree with that, but I think it’s important to remember that Mitt was no shoo-in for most of the primary season (at least the early stages). I’m not necessarily calling anyone in that primary race a “crazy right winger”…but Bachmann and Cain are unquestionably on the right end of the curve. And they’re arguably both somewhat sanity-challenged.
And McCain faced a lot of pressure from Huckabee and Thompson, had to outrace Romney to the right, and ultimately caved to pressure from the right wing of the party to take Palin as a running mate.
So yeah, you’re right, but I don’t think one can dismiss the leverage the “crazy right wing” has wielded over the last few races.
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They have leverage, but they don’t actually demand as much from their candidates as is often supposed. All they wanted from them on immigration was that he promise enforcement first. Rubio’s already there.
Obama’s executive action could actually make things easier on Republicans. With half(the good half) of undocumented immigrants shielded from deportation, Republican promises to improve enforcement against the rest, mainly those with no long term connections to our country, will have more credibility. Plus there won’t be any urgency to pass an amnesty. The more I think about what the President is about to do, the more I think Republicans should refuse to take the bait. He’s actually letting them off the hook.
I know this is a hijack…Interesting thoughts, but if by “refuse to take the bait” you mean the Republicans should refrain from criticizing Obama’s proposed executive action on the “good”* undocumenteds, won’t that just make Democratic and independent voters roll their eyes and say “Well, then you can’t complain that this sort of thing should be handled by the legislative branch, because you’ve had years to get this done that way, and you didn’t do it!”
*“Good” in this context is, to me, to make a morally unjustified distinction, but as long as we know it’s meant with a little wink, I actually think it’s an okay shorthand. Maybe “low-hanging fruit” would work better.
Of course there will be no rhetorical distinction between the “good” and “bad” illegals, but even the most liberal immigration plan on the table involves deporting at least 1-2 million of those here illegally. Criminals we all agree on(I’d hope), but people who came here recently and have no particular connection to this country should also certainly get the boot once we have an immigration system that is fair and working. The Senate immigration bill legalizes 8 million of the 11 million illegals. The remaining 3 million are going to find life particularly difficult with enforcement focused on them. Hopefully they’ll self-deport because they won’t be able to find work thanks to e-verify.
But it could be argued that the Obama plan goes far enough: it is speculated that it will shield all family members of US citizens and immigrants who have been in the country for a number of years. These are people with an actual connection to this country. The rest can, and should, go home. And after the President’s executive order, it will be a lot easier to make sure they do.
Hey, what do you guys think of Deval Patrick? He’s said no to 2016 but is open to a run after that. and presumably he’d be open to being VP.
Well, GHWBush raised GWBush and Neil Bush (the S&L scandal figure), so he could be said to be responsible for those family members. And neither one of them augers well for his ability to bring a decent human being into the world. Best we don’t take any chances on Jeb being the black sheep of the family (so to speak).
Yes he juked the crime state as mayor, then juked the education stats as governor. Perhaps a Federal Reserve appointment would be a better fit. People just see the suffix ‘stat’ and start salivating.
His surrogate was just dismantled by a fat Republican in MARYLAND. He won’t run.
Jim Webb is going to have a go at it:
Howard Dean has no chance. Most people remember him from his days as DNC chairman: a histrionic lunatic who needs his meds adjusted. Even if he’s calmed down since, he has way too much baggage to shake off.
Joe Biden’s actually a capable guy, but his frequent verbal gaffs have caused people to view him as a walking joke. Nobody takes him seriously. The only way he’ll get nominated is if Hillary Clinton’s plane “mysteriously” crashes, and the Dems need to settle on someone quickly.
On the Republican side, Bobby Jindal could be a good president, and the only people that care about his beliefs are people that wouldn’t vote for him anyway. But to be frank, there’s probably still enough subtle racism around that an Indian-American couldn’t get elected.
I think Rick Snyder, the governor of Michigan, could be a strong contender in 2016 if he wants it. He turned around a state with severe financial troubles, and has played a part in getting Detroit on the road to being a respectable city again. He could probably deliver a traditionally blue state for the Republicans in 2016.
Webb has done too much public musing about the honor of the Confederacy to survive a primary battle.
…as the guy who virtually lead the Democrats to take Congress in 2006.
I’ve actually told a bunch of people IRL that he could be a frontrunner for the VP pick of the '16 Dem nominee. He’d be a great President, too, IMO, but yeah, he isn’t interested now anyway.
I’m not quite sure if he has been adversely affected by Coakley’s recent loss in the MA governor’s race, however.
Patrick has made it clear that he doesn’t want to subject his family to the rigors of his even being Governor anymore. If he had a bad enough case of Potomac Fever, he wouldn’t let that stop him, though.
There is still speculation that he wouldn’t be against his friend Obama nominating him to the Supreme Court, though.