Do you want to restate your claim of a “fundamental fear” then?
No.
Then you have overstated the case.
It may be true for you.
It most certainly is not true for most women.
It must suck to live in fear like you do.
Don’t be that way.
Maybe she is, and maybe she isn’t. But you are overstating what she said, and I’ve shown why twice now. I quoted her, and I quoted you, and the two quotes don’t say the same thing, so you’re failing in summarizing what she said.
No, you have not. Not at all. Not even close.
Words mean things. You are ignoring that.
You’re clearly not reading it as it was meant.
Sometimes different words mean different things to different people.
So you know how to negotiate hetersexual encounters without being the one doing the approaching. Then you read from Ulfreida’s post that women often feel threatened when men do the approaching. I suggest that relying on the modalities where women do the approaching would alleviate a lot of those tensions.
What do you think you are asking me to teach you?
This is one of those things where “male privilege” exists…and is depressing. I have, upon more than one occasion, crossed a street to walk on the other side, so as to appear less threatening to women walking on the sidewalk. Call it paternalism, call it misguided chivalry, whatever. I just know that I have seen the look of fear in women’s eyes, and it cuts deeply, because I am not a predator or an assailant.
Given the crime statistics, I will not put any blame upon women, at all, for feeling this kind of threat.
(I read “The Feminine Mystique” when it first came out, and it was an eye-opener.)
This…wow…
Please tell me what was meant as opposed to what was written.
When you are done with that tell me why what was written is not what she meant.
Err…what?
- I have approached women and been rejected.
- I have approached women and been successful.
- Women have approached me and been rejected.
- Women have approached me and been successful.
Honestly my life has been pretty normal in this regard.
You have nothing to teach me.
Reading your posts is depressing.
The poster already explained it. I think her words are clear. You might feel otherwise, but that doesn’t mean she made an error.
I have asked for clarification on her words and none have been forthcoming.
So, not clear at all.
Post #20 seemed very clear to me. What part of it didn’t you understand?
Post #21
You’re harping on the specific wording of an earlier post when a later post makes the meaning very clear. Once again, what, if anything, in post #20 wasn’t clear to you?
Words mean things.
If you want to argue they mean what you think they mean then have at it.
There is a very long distance between seeing every man as a rapist and not being certain that any given strange man isn’t a rapist.
You specifically asked (see above) “what am I to do?” If you’re going to ask a question like that, it seems unreasonable to expect that nobody will try to answer it.
On what authority do you make that claim?
I have driven all around this country alone, when I was in my twenties. I have hitchhiked and picked up hitchhikers. I have lived alone in houses with no locks on the doors. I have shared houses, and sometimes beds, with men. I have most certainly not spent my life hiding under the bed. But yes, that calculation is always there, in a corner of my mind. That’s the world we live in. It’s the world you’re living in too, whether you want to see it or not.
I do not know what this means.
I do not know what this means.
On what authority is the claim I am responding to made?
Super anecdote.
Some of these unrealistic points of views have unworkable intrinsic paradoxes.