Shh…
I’m sorry. Am I harshing your mellow? :dubious:
You are boxing yourself in with your haughty list.
Are you hunting wabbits?
So much for the Age of Aquarius.
Look, could you at least throw us a bone and tell us why you think Silent Running is important to this conversation?
Can we follow a middle course and do some limited solar system exploration…and stop harming the earth’s ecosystem? Cut back some on the rate of extinction of species, emit a little less CO2, stop conducting major wars?
There’s room for some of both. Spiritualism is, I think, a dead end, but so is excessively sterile scientism. We do still have a lot to learn from nature: not it’s spiritual values, but merely how it works. When we have worked out artificial photosynthesis, we’ll have accomplished something that, till now, only nature knows how to do.
So true.
Free your mind and your ass will follow…
But you can see the stars from here, so it is a womb with a view. ![]()
Hastily ducks and runs for cover…
Ok remember the original questions - jungle, ayahuasca, shamans, space migration. Leave the jungle forever or take that little piece of Earth with you into space ?
To elaborate, let’s say the claims of some of the ayahuasca promoting shamen and their followers are true, and that this brew, taken in a traditional way and setting, is the key to psychological healing and creating an eco-sensitive society. That dooms our space faring descendants to being unhealed and eco-insensitive doesn’t it, because there are no jungles on the moon ? Either that or the world picture of the shamen isn’t complete.
Instead of jungle, we bring seeds, we don’t need psycho psoup, shamans are silly when you have real medicine. When you are talking space migration, you are talking rarity of storage space-the type of setup shown in Silent Running is absolutely the worst way to go about it.
Let’s stuff our spaceship with every foolish notion ever conceived, just in case one of them turns out to be a miracle cure! Why focus only on your particular psycho psoup and the shamans that pserve it to the tourists? Seeems a little close-mined to me, don’t you think?
Seems like a lot of effort to go to.
Why not just take some refined DMT on the spaceship with you ? The experience of smoked DMT is supposed to be kind of technological, Terence McKenna’s machine elves and etc., so is that an adaptation - a new medicine for a new space age ?
A film about a very large greenhouse in space.
Even if we are unhealed, that doesn’t mean we’re morbidly diseased.
People live in big cities, surrounded by concrete and steel, overcrowded, under much stress, regulated, scheduled, and uptight.
Okay, that’s bad. But…we live. We get along pretty well, really. We live our lives, eat and drink, have sex, write opinion posts on the internet, and generally do okay. It isn’t heaven, but it isn’t hell.
More than seven billion humans have never drunk ayahuasca, and we aren’t soulless walking dead. Except my next door neighbor, who pretty much is.
Eh. Plenty of New Agie opportunities in space. Who needs to commune with the jungle when you have the stars?
In space, no-one can hear you tripping.
Radical, man.
That’s a whole lotta if.
This right here is a heavily woo-ish bit of twaddle, even though it is twaddle much beloved of science fiction geeks.
Let’s just send this someplace it’ll fit in better.