Share your experience with CFS

So my doc has diagnosed me with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Basically this is doctor code for: We acknowledge there is a problem, but we can’t find a cause.

I’ve been suffering from fatigue for at least 5 years. Due to many operations, my doctors have been telling me that it is likely just the fact that my body is having trouble recovering. But it has been a year since the last one.

All the blood tests came back normal. My doc even tested testosterone and HGH.

A mild stimulant helped for a few weeks. (It was wonderful my first day! Wow! I literally can not remember when I felt that good in many years.)

We are now exploring the possibility that what I call fatigue is depression and we are going to try and treat that.

Anyone here have CFS? Anyone here recover from it?

Darn it, I thought this was going to be about chicken-fried steak. then I realized I wasn’t in Café Society.

Chicken-fried steak might not help chronic fatigue syndrome, but it does cheer me up when I’m depressed. Can’t hurt.

I don’t have much to offer other than that my mom suffered from it for a year or so. She was in bed by 8 every night for a long stretch. She eventually recovered, I think mostly on her own without finding a cause or remedy.

My MIL has this, but I’m not sure exactly how it differs from depression. I perceive her as depressed but she graduated from the ‘‘Therapists Can’t Be Mentally Ill, Silly’’ school of clinical mental health. :rolleyes: Fatigue is a major symptom of depression so all I can say is I hope the treatment for depression is effective for you.

I was mildly amused when my doc timidly suggested an antidepressant - she offered it up as if I would be adamantly against. If it makes me feel good again, I’m all for it.

One reason I have doubts that it is depression is that my symptoms swing wildly during the day. I wake up feeling great, and then by noon am very fatigued - sometimes so much that I can’t concentrate. Sometimes a nap helps, sometimes not. Sometimes no nap, but I begin feeling better by 5. I am not an expert on depression, but so I can’t say that this isn’t common, but most people I know who suffer from depression do so for longer than a few hours. While it is true that sometimes a feeling of sadness accompanies my fatigue, it doesn’t always.

::shrug:: The doc says that this may help me and I’m willing to try nearly anything to feel good again. We’ll give it a go. Of course, I want everything to happen now and the new drug probably won’t take effect for two or more weeks… :frowning:

Me being me, I have ordered several books as well.

Well, if you’re not having depressed thoughts, then I’d probably go with CFS or something else. My own personal experience with depression is that there are times when I can have a perfectly great day only to crash at the end, or wake up depressed and be fine by the end of the day. That’s called emotional lability and it usually has an event or thought that triggers the swing. When I was severely depressed, I was indeed depressed for weeks and months with maybe a few days of respite in between. But moderate or mild depression doesn’t have to look like that.

On the other hand, thoughts are such a huge part of how depression is perpetuated, I’d be hard-pressed to say someone is depressed if they haven’t had feelings of worthlessness or the inability to feel pleasure. It is worth noting, though, that across cultures depression can look very different. For Latinos and other demographics that are highly interpersonal, depression manifests more often as fatigue and physical ailments like headache, stomachache, etc.

I’m not even assuming it is most likely depression, just hoping for your sake it is, since depression is highly treatable but I’m pretty sure CFS, like IBS, is one of those things doctors throw out when they have no idea what’s going on. Since I have the latter, I understand the frustration of kind of being stuck with an unhelpful diagnosis.

Have they tested your blood sugar? I have low blood sugar, and it plays a huge part in my energy levels.

If you’ve been having trouble for 5 years, then yeah, I guess they have.

I’m not really having depressed thoughts. Just am tired and have trouble concentrating. One of the things she had me do was ask my close friends if they had noticed any personality changes. It was one of her tests for depression (only one of them, she seems very thorough.) She said that many times people in depression are in denial and when they hear descriptions of personality changes for themselves they recognize it better. Oddly, two of my friends felt that I actually seem *happier *in recent times. (that made me wonder what a miserable SOB I used to be… :)) In any case, while some days I do feel sad, the two don’t go hand in hand.

Yeah, she did a whole array of blood tests. And I have had some before. I do worry that my sugar levels can swing wildly, because my internal plumbing is not normal, but we’ve done our best to rule it out. Both eating and fasting blood tests seem to be normal. (We did a fasting blood test again this past thursday, she’ll let me know. But it wasn’t my first one.)

The thing I like about her is, she isn’t giving up. Even though I’m not in 100% agreement about her current direction, I’m glad she is trying something.

I’ve had CFS since my last year in high school. I’m 25 now, so about 8 years. I’ve been variously diagnosed and treated for mono, postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, lyme disease, and babesia (red blood cell parasite also from deer ticks). Nothing has really worked. I’m now skeptical that I ever had lyme disease/babesia though I am still pursuing babesia treatment since I have nothing to lose and might have it. (The mono diagnosis was definitely just incorrect.) I’ve never been well enough to work, go to college or live on my own.

My problem is overwhelmingly the fatigue/lack of energy, postural orthostatic issues to a lesser extent (stamina, ability to be upright or standing, mild cognitive issues from lack of adequate blood flow), and also mild neurological symptoms and a mild constant headache. I think if I could just get rid of the fatigue, I could live happily and productively with everything else.

My condition is mainly stable. I am still getting ever so slightly worse as the years go by, which is mainly evident in my increasing need for sleep (10 hours then 11 to 12 hours, now it’s at 13, which I rather begrudge) and an occasional new mild odd neurological symptom.

At this point, I’m working towards being independent on the assumption that I’ll never get any better. I hope that’s not the case, but I’ve spent a long time just assuming that everyone was right when they said that they’d find the cause and I’d get back to normal, and I need to get on with living.

I am on antidepressants and have mild-moderate situational depression, but it’s clear that depression is not the underlying cause.

I’m on medication to lower my heart rate and increase my blood pressure (postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, which I definitely have - basically my body doesn’t compensate for the effects of gravity on blood flow (specifically to the brain) in a healthy way. Don’t know why.)

It’s also recently (yay internet research) become clear to me that I have low blood sugar issues, and am preparing to test my blood glucose at various points during the day/after eating various types of food, after which I will see a dietitian so she can help me structure/balance my diet to best cope with the hypoglycemia. And of course if my home blood glycose monitoring reveals anything that can be diagnosed/treated, that will happen as well. Not really holding my breath on that one, though, since my bloodwork comes back pretty much normal too and although I’ve been diagnosed with various things that I do indeed have, they all turn out so far to be mild and basically side issues (celiac disease, mild sleep apnea).

It’s clear to me that food (and, like I said, blood sugar, I think) has a huge effect on my energy/fatigue levels, so I’m working mainly on eating an uberhealthy diet. I then plan to exercise as much as I can (within healthy limits, of course) with the energy boost I hope to get from the healthy diet, and hopefully doing both of those things will improve my functioning to the point that I can start really pursuing education/work and have a social life. Right now my main problem is not really having enough energy to prepare all that healthy food, but I’m slowly adding in healthy meals one at a time that are as simple/quick/easy to prepare as possible and am making progress.

(I’ve written on the dope about my brush with mental illness (schizoid personality disorder), which was exacerbated by my illness and has caused a fair amount of depression for me, but that’s another one of those side rather than main issues, in case you remember that and are curious if that could account for a lot of my fatigue via depression.)

Like you, my fatigue levels vary greatly throughout the day, and I’m really hoping to link that to blood sugar swings. Although I’ve been tested for diabetes and had my blood sugar taken as part of weekly bloodwork when I was on a picc line for iv antibiotics, I think it’s quite possible that I have issues with hypoglycemia that have never really been picked up on. One time, my blood sugar was in the 50’s when I had my weekly morning blood work (picc line) and several days ago, I used my home blood glucose monitoring thingie to test my blood sugar level when I was feeling particularly crappy and it was 53, so I think there’s hope for improvement there.

Anyway, definitely pursue the blood glucose thing if you feel it’s a problem. You can get a home monitoring device and record the blood sugar swings when you think you have them, to rule it out if nothing else.

And don’t get discouraged by my experience. All of my various doctors find my case to be quite unusually intractable.

Good luck.

It can be hard to separate out the two, since being really tired makes you irritable and (in my experience) too tired to be sociable and emotive. Plus, when you’re dealing with years of problems with fatigue, just having more energy than usual can be enough to make you really really happy, and never improving is enough to make you depressed. Kind of a “which came first - the chicken or the egg” problem. And mood/perspective *does *have an effect on how energetic you feel. I think it mainly comes down to a matter of how much is attributable to what. I use various mental techniques to keep my mood optimistic and peaceful (just makes good sense to) and try my best to be open to and aware of whatever I’m experiencing mentally, and whatever’s left over must be physical.

I didn’t get diagnosed with CFS, but my doctors think my fatigue is related to my brain cancer. I have a non-malignant adenoma on my thyroid gland.

My symptoms: extreme fatigue within 1-2 hours of eating lunch, almost to the point of fainting or passing out, even while driving.

What we eliminated that could also be affecting you:

  1. High cholesterol: doesn’t affect fatigue.
  2. Diabetes: blood test normal, repeated several times. I also borrowed blood test strips and a tester during times of fatigue, and my blood sugar was in the normal range.
  3. Stress: very high possibility here. I also had stress-related conditions like skin rash with the fatigue.
  4. High carb diet: This alleviated my symptoms when my diabetic coworker suggested this as a possibility. Basically, I’m getting a sugar crash because of carbs. I cut my carb intake during lunch by half and increased protein, and I saw an immediate improvement, however, it’s not 100%.
  5. Quitting smoking: I did this for 6 months along with an increased regimen of exercise. No effect.
  6. Hormonal: I have perfect scores on every hormone test I’ve ever taken. However, I did also suggest to my doctor that I may not be in the “normal” range, and thus a “normal” reading for me might be low. She didn’t buy it.
  7. Vision related: Bright sunlight exasperated the symptoms. Eye exam and prescription glasses helped for headaches but not fatigue.

I would recommend #4, as that helped me out the most, but I would try to eliminate the brain tumor, depression, and diabetes first.

I already tend to eat low-carb due to other health issues. Although I worry that I mention it too much, I’ll explain: My stomach perforated in 2005 because of an earlier botched hiatal hernia operation and they removed it. The esophagus is now directly attached to the small intestine. Because of this they encourage a low-carb diet, carbs can cause what they refer to as dumping syndrome. Dumping can also cause many of the symptoms that I have, which is one reason the surgeon has been dismissive.

Also due to this, my surgeon has said that he doubts I will ever have to worry about diabetes. I’m not sure why he believes this, but he seems certain. We have checked my sugar anyway.

Just had an eye exam in August, so no worries there.

I’m not an expert, but not having a stomach could be a cause of fatigue.

:smiley: Yeah, you’d think it would be the first thing they would suspect wouldn’t you? But despite repeated discussions, none of the experts seem to think I should be this tired all the time. Apparently it isn’t too unlike some forms of bariatric surgery and neither my surgeon nor my GP think that this is the cause.