I work for a property restoration company and can confirm that even the decedent’s insurance policy will cover the cleanup work on occasion. I’ve known police departments to help arrange for the cleaning, and the county coroner here will generally remove all significant bodily… “debris,” but they generally don’t do the cleaning.
Here is an image of part of the cleanup.
On the other hand, (around here), the police are responsible for calling a (commercial) lockup crew if your windows/doors are broken in a crime, and a (commercial) tow truck if your vehicle is damaged. And they have been forced to provide (minimal) social-worker services to victims of crime, because, for some reason, people seem to expect the police to provide some kind of sympathy and empathy for victims of crime. They could easily become responsible for all kinds of other strange things.
And oddly enough, the fire department here does do (minimal) cleanup in some cases. I’ve seen them sweeping the water out of buildings, and they pump out basements. I don’t know why, but there you are.
Yes, but Tex supposedly was not in the mood to keep doing this, so made up that lie to Charlie so he’d get spooked and decide to hide out.
Watsons book, Will You Die for Me was an insiders view of the whole thing.
The motive for the Tate-Labianca murders was to cover up the murder of Gary Hinman by Bobby Beausoleil. Manson was afraid that Beausoleil would implicate him and tried to stage copycat killings to exonerate Beausoleil. He also wanted to implicate the Black Panthers who he thought were coming after them because he shot a drug dealer who had ties to them during a botched robbery.
The reason he picked the houses he did was that he knew the layout of both houses because he had been there previously and wanted publicity so that the police would think they had the wrong man in Beausoleil.
Forgive the bump…What basically handed the case to investigators was Susan Atkins (chick with long black hair in the movie) **bragging ** about having done both murders while in county jail for an unrelated offense. Mostly to her cellmate, who was privately freaked, but kept cool until her release, upon which she told the warden, and the ball started rolling. If not for that, I wonder if it would still be an unsolved mystery.
If “Helter Skelter” is about anything, it’s using the slide (English people call this a “helter-skelter” - veterans of Roller Coaster Tycoon will know it as just a slide, which people won’t pay much money to use) as a metaphor for a love affair. Really, though, it’s not about anything in particular.
Is that really necessary?
I’m curious as to how Manson was treated in prison by fellow inmates. Any sort of perv, child molester, child killer etc is more or less KOS (kill on Sight). Manson killed an unborn baby. Was he protected by the AB? Or in special solitary… or…?
He was crazy, and acted liked Hollywood crazy. That probably meant other prisoners stayed away from him.
He spent most of his life incarcerated. He knew how to survive behind bars. Manson didnt (as far as we know) actually kill anyone. He sent minions to do his killing.
In this case, I don’t see the harm. Even if “chick” is offensive in all contexts, in this context it’s one of the milder things Susan Atkins can be called.
I wouldn’t call Marie Curie the chick who discovered radium. I wouldn’t call Kathryn Bigelow the chick who won Best Director 2009. But if I’m talking about someone who brutally murdered four people, one of them a pregnant woman, and then bragged about it, I’m not going to call her a lady.
I recall from the book Mindhunter by John Douglas, who helped pioneer the FBI’s “profiling” department, that the author basically described Manson as someone who was very small as a child and developed a charismatic and manipulative personality to save himself from frequent ass-kickings while growing up. Perhaps this skillset is/was helpful for him in prison as well.
Doh, is/was=was. Forgot that he died.:smack: Also, it appears that he was at least held in protective custody while incarcerated at California State Prison, Corcoran, from 1989 to 1997. Charles Manson - Wikipedia
I would assume he spent the majority of his time in protective custody he would get murdered in general population. Also not sure if most people know but he was not a physically intimidating guy at all, he was like 5’2".
5’2" with a swastika carved in his forehead.
In his autobio, Roman Polanski addressed the matter of the many people who were supposedly supposed to be at the house that night. He said that nobody else was, though Jerzy Kosinski was the only name he named specifically as not having been expected.
One of the books suggested as a motive for the LaBianca killings the fact that Manson was not there on the first night, and so felt he needed to lead them personally on another murder spree, lest his leadership of the gang be questioned. I don’t recall which book but the three I’ve read are Helter Skelter, The Family, and My Life with Charles Manson. If that seems like too many, I guess it might be but then I’ve never read a single book about Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer.
No necessary but seems fitting for the era. I don’t have any problem with it.
He was the scene of the Labianca murders. He tried to kill a criminal nicknamed “Lotsapoppa” as well (he shot him a bunch of times, and ironically ran into him in jail later).
I expect Manson was in a “special area” to protect him. From what I’ve read, when a convict enters a prison, nobody is told what they’re in for. Even the guards might not know details. Pedophiles and the like don’t get stabbed on day one because they don’t look different than anyone else and their faces aren’t always publicized. However, a famous criminal gets protection because the other convicts know what they did, and might take lethal offense to that crime.