Only peripherally on-topic, but does anyone have more detail on this scam? What’s supposed to be on the CD that now has your name written on it?
I’ve been stopped on the street in NYC, handed a baseball cap, and then asked for a “charitable donation” (here’s your cap back Buddy, go scratch), and I assume this is along those same lines – I’m just curious as to what the guy is supposedly giving his mark.
This is a thread where I can say the Cop did the right thing. 
None of the newspapers are specifying the type of weapon, though there is a photo in the NY Times, and it certainly looks like an Ingram Mac 10, but it could the the semi-automatic variety, (MPA 10.)
Doesn’t matter. “I can 't sell this, it’s got your name on it! No-one’s gonna buy a CD with your name on it. I got kids to feed, man!”
Weak.
I’ve been there a million times, it’s a miracle no innocents were killed. I was in a show at the Marriott ballroom a couple of weeks ago and it’s wall-to-wall people right where these hustlers were, and I’ve been inside that store and to the Marquis box office. Thank God the guy ran into the only open space nearby and that his gun jammed. The note on the back of the card from where the gun was stolen was chilling, this guy could have turned into another cop-killer and probably didn’t care how many tourists, theatregoers, and people waiting for taxis in the passageway he took with him.
Daddy would have gotten us Uzis.
If some random stranger approached and asked my name, I wouldn’t answer. Lest they should find me at a weak moment and I did answer I would tell them to fuck right off should they tell me I owed them $10.
That being said I did fall for the “where you got yo shoes” scam in New Orleans. I knew it was some kind of scam but being a good deal buzzed I was sure I could foil his scam. Of course I didn’t and he demanded $20. I told him I’d buy him a drink, no, he wanted money so I told him for his amusing show I’d buy him a drink but for his weak scam and improper English he wasn’t getting diddly squat.
Of course the next day with a clear(er) head I noticed the signs in every store warning against the street hustlers and specifically the “were you got yo shoes” scam.
Back to the OP, I too find it very odd this person’s choice of guns for a street scammer. Will there be more to it like part of an organized gang?
What “shoes” scam is this?
For the gun folks on this thread, the NY Post has a film of the gun and the ammo clip.
Why was this guy carrying around cards from several different gun stores in VA? This gets weirder and weirder. And the reactions of his family make me embarrassed to share a boro with them.
No they don’t.
One explanation… there are a few variations of the set up but the punch line is essentially the same.
Now in my case it was more of an amusing show, but I have heard from others that if you don’t pay them they can get quite aggressive and follow you around demanding you pay the “gentleman’s bet.”
The photos look exactly like Vulcan Mac 10. $400 semi auto. Probably a lot less on the street from someone looking to score for their next fix.
Another tell that is wasn’t a full auto is that witnesses report hearing “pop, pop, pop” or “Bang, Bang.” A burst from a fully automatic weapon isn’t going to be a series of discrete sounds.
That’s not been my (admittedly limited) experience. I haven’t shot one since the late-80s, but of the half dozen MAC 10 and 11s I’ve shot I had jams in 4 of them, 3 failures to extract and 1 failure to feed, all with standard ball ammo. Of the ones that jammed, 3 were full auto, one was semi, but I don’t remember if the semi was a 10 or 11 after all this time.
Homeless people are often the targets of criminals who make them suckers. I’m not saying this happened, but in this case, the gun could’ve been used in a crime and the person using it could say to the homeless bloke, “Here watch my gun, I’ll give $5.00 to do it.” Of course the homeless guy does it. He doesn’t care and it’s five bucks. He thinks later on the criminal will come back and get his gun.
This way the cops find the gun on the homeless guy and bring him in for questioning. Of course it’s not gonna convict the homeless guy but it’ll confuse the cops enough to give the real crim time to get away or plan an alibi
Whaaa…? The shooter was not noted to be homeless (scam artist =/= homeless), and he was witnessed engaged in his scam as well as firing on police. By the police. Who returned fire.
The police didn’t just “find the gun on some random homeless guy.”
Uh, sometimes they do, especially if they manage an entire citywide panhandling scam ring.
Night of the Comet ?