Burner, you had me beginning to agree with you until…
**QUOTE]No one wakes up weighing 400 pounds. It doesnt happen by accident or by illness. It happens because people eat more calories than they can use. Everybody wants to blame genetics, but the fact is if you eat 5000 calories a day and only burn 300 calories a day you will blow up like a balloon.Genetics dont even enter into it.
In fact, morbid obesity DOES happen by illness quite often, and genetics as well, as cited here…
"The reasons for obesity are multiple and complex. Despite conventional wisdom, it is not simply a result of overeating. Research has shown that in many cases a significant, underlying cause of morbid obesity is genetic. Studies have demonstrated that once the problem is established, efforts such as dieting and exercise programs have a limited ability to provide effective long-term relief"
Your reasoning is misguided and prejudiced and your statement altogether wrong.
Moreover, the CDC has indeed classified obesity as a disease, in fact, Better than 50% of the country is considered now considered ‘obese’. The CDC says http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/obesity-epidemic.htm obesity will kill more people this year thanAIDS will in the next three, should the number remain the same or nearly the same.
The answer to…
is the ACTUAL caselaw definition of readily achievable, which, I am quite sure has nothing to do with the profits of a major airline, despite the Q & A session remarks. Since the inception and enforcement of the ADA, sidewalks across America have had to be remade and resurfaced, countless stalls and toilets and grab bars have had to be installed, where they did not before exist, and miles and miles of asphalt and concrete now make up the collective of handicapped parking spaces, from which, I might add, millions of local revenue dollars are now collected from violations issued nationwide.
Obesity is now on that list of disabilities. You’ll have to deal with it.
Further, the fact that nearly 50% of Americans are obese, coupled with the reality of plummeting airline stability, means that should an airline decide to charge more, they will be summarily discriminating against a fair portion of customers or potential customers. Should this be legal? Perhaps not, also the arguement that an airline is a private company is only half true. There are few other industries so heavily federally regulated and managed than air transport. So then, the debate remains, should it be called discrimination? Indeed it should. Here’s why. Like many, many other disabilities,and as cited above, obesity cannot always be managed by the sufferer, and often needs to be medically treated, and even then cannot always be cured or even controlled. It is indeed like MS, and CP, and other crippling diseases, in that it effects the way in which those affected live their day to day lives.
Now I’ll grant you, it’s unlikely that there was a real need for an 800 pound person to fly when suitable ground transportation was probably available, and that a person of that size should be aware of his or her imact on those around them, and be considerate of that impact.
Still, the issue, IMO addresses those who are more mainstream, and who fly often enough for this to be an issue. I personally am 6’4" and weigh 300# I have a very large frame (60" chest 44" waist), and am not all that fat, yet considered obese by the standards of many institutions. I am an active firefighter and paramedic, and can work circles around many of my thinner, less in shape colleagues, yet should I choose to fly, I may be made to purchase another seat, not quite so simple on a firefighters’ salary.
Lastly, playing devil’s advocate, smoking, because of it’s hazards and general danger to the public was banned from all flights.
I ask the following questions to all posters based upon above fact.
What indeed is the hazard and general danger in coming in accidental contact with someone in the seat next to you?
Would you be offended if a person with an obvious physical defect, flaw or handicap other than being obese sat next to you and came in accidental contact with you?
Would you be offended if a homely person that was obese sat next to you, and came in accidental contact with you?
Would you be offended if that person were attractive and thin rather than fat and homely, or handicapped? (don’t lie either)
Do you think there is more of a risk touching someone than breathing the air they breathe? (please, get me started on that one)
Are we just stereotyping and allowing ourselves to be taken in by the hollywood myth of beauty?
I already know the answers to many of these, politically correct or not, but the truth is that we are so compartmentalized in our culture, that we are afraid to let anyone else in. We have come to enjoy the antiseptic nature of our lives, the anonymous non-committal contact such as this very board. We have become comfortable drawing lines, real and imagined, around ourselves and in the end, we’re all poorer souls for it.