Should Apple help the government hack into encrypted devices?

Agreed.

One problem with phones is that they do aggregate a lot of disparate private data. So if the courts eventually rule that anything on the phone is basically in “plain view” once the cops have PC to search some part of it, that’s going to mean that every person accused of a crime basically reveals all of their private information to the cops.

Correct.

I came here for contradiction, not agreement.

No you didn’t.

A solution has been found to the problem. [del]Mighty Mouse[/del], I mean John McAfee can hack the phone with his team of Super Hackers in three weeks.

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Why can’t we all just accept that there should not be any assumption of privacy over the internet.

We accept that our politicians and leader should be completely transparent and save their emails, but preserve privacy for terrorists.

I don’t need privacy over the air, or on the internet, because I won’t expose anything I want private over the air. It makes no sense to assume privacy when thousand upon thousands of hackers exist out there who do wish to do you harm.

If you got to inform someone of a secret, do it face to face or with snail mail.

Whatever you do, don’t use mail. They don’t even need a warrant to see who you’re sending mail to, and they can certainly read the contents surreptitiously much easier than any other way.

In you want to inform someone of a secret, it’s best to dig a very deep hole, cover yourself in tin foil, and have a whispered conversation using mostly pantomiming. America!

No we don’t. We expect them to maintain records of their business as public servants. We don’t expect them to reveal all the personal email they exchange, except for those dumb enough to do it over government owned computers or through government owned email accounts.

Tell that to Hillary Clinton…

I would say this is 99% likely to be right. If the NSA can’t bust into my Angry Birds device on their own, seriously, they need to fire everyone and start over.

I’m not about to defend Hilary Clinton over what she did with government email.

I’m no expert on encryption, but my understanding is that the iPhone uses AES-256 encryption. If the federal government has a way to crack that kind of encryption without the key or partial key, that would be a very big deal. Indeed, I would think the first evidence that they have this power would be that the federal government itself would stop using AES-256 for classified information, which AFAIK, they have not.

Sorry, but this is nuts.

First, if you’re out of town and wish to have an intimate conversation with your wife, you want that to be publicly available?

And the technology exists to encrypt communications, so the terrorists will be using that. Sorry, you can’t do anything about it.

I can’t see why the government would be interested in my naughty conversations unless I’m suspected of a crime.

And that’s why that encryption needs to be breakable.

This would require a fundamental breakthrough in theory.

I think it’s highly UNlikely that that AES256 is cracked.

Well, he didn’t say the government. He just said there’s no need for privacy over the Internet. What about when I access my bank accounts?

Maybe you misunderstood me - when I said the technology exists, I meant to imply that it’s unbreakable encryption that exists. It’s known math and you can’t make the world un-know it.

Is it theoretically possible that the NSA has figured out a weigh to break the iPhone’s particular hardware implementation of AES256, as opposed to a theoretical crack to the standard in general? Or that they’ve been able to somehow insert a backdoor in the manufacturing of the chips?

Unfortunately, the reality of mathematics is that a brute force attack on an AES256 key would take longer than a billion billion years. And the knowledge of how to create such encryption keys is public already.

So if you need it to be breakable, get cracking on solving the discrete logarithm problem.

They need to execute a few, fire everyone else and start over anyway. The National Security Agency should be a force for improving the security of the American people, not sabotaging it.

Yes. It’s theoretically possible.