Should Disney Remove The Prequels From Canon?

Surely you mean grandson? :dubious: :confused:

We are in the midst of re-watching the entire set right now. I forgot how incredibly painful it is to watch those prequels. My goodness, they are bad.

Why exactly would you want to remake the prequels? What would be gained thereby?

Is it so you don’t have to live with the memory of how the prequels sucked, which destroyed your life? The prequels destroyed your life, making a new trilogy about the fall of Annakin Skywalker won’t fix that, even if the new trilogy didn’t suck.

If you want more Star Wars movies that don’t suck, how about we ask them to make new Star Wars movies that don’t suck? Why force yourself to tell the story of the fall of Annikin Skywalker again? If you want a story about how a whiny crybaby kid turns to the dark side, ask for more movies with Kylo Ren.

If you want movies about Jedi as the guardians of the Old Republic, then have some movies set 200 years before the prequels, with entirely new characters. We don’t need to have another movie introducing characters from IV-VI we already know. If we want to watch movies about those characters we can re-watch IV-VI.

Remaking the prequels is even more stupid than making them in the first place. Why would we do this to ourselves?

Why not just make more decent Star Wars movies set 40 years after the original trilogy, and let go of our hatred? Search your feelings, you know this to be true.

Bah, right. That. :smack:

No, the time-travel subplot went over most people’s heads.

Appease a handful of fanboys? No.

Look the films were OK, grossed quite well, and even did OK in the ratings.

Just because a few fanboys could not understand that they could not recapture their youth and the sense of wonder from seeing A New Hope, doesnt mean we need to scrap three successful films.

Yes, too much of the kid, too much Jar-Jar. They were by no means perfect, I agree.

If you don’t like them, why are you watching them? :confused:

I hope they do

my enjoyment of the Star Wars saga depends entirely on what the studio says officially happened

Apparently because he had forgotten how bad they were.

… and we have always been at war with Eurasia.

Any amount of Jar-Jar is too much Jar-Jar.

They already soiled the reputation of Star Wars. Disney can’t unmake them. Even if they burn all the copies and pretend they never existed, we will remember. There’s no putting that incompetent genie back in its bottle.

No. They were not. You are wrong. You might be the wrongest person in all of reality. You should feel bad about how wrong you are.

Ontopic: I’d prefer they redo the films.

Episode 4 dropped when I was a teenager, reared on crappy low-budget SF films, and the prequels happened well into my middle-age dotage, spoiled on decades of sophisticated CGI and expensive superhero flicks.

Brace yourself. Sit down. Take a sip of water.

The prequels weren’t all that bad an the original trilogy wasn’t as great as you remember. Show all six to some kid who’s never heard of them, and see what an unbiased critical assessment looks like.

This is exactly the case. Part of what made the original Star Wars seem epic and important–despite the fact that most of the film was spent on a backwater planet and a junky smuggler’s ship–was that it was clearly set in a much larger universe with an relevant history into which the viewer is being introduced in medias res. Kenobi, Vader, and the Empire all have a relevant backstory, but for the viewer, as with Luke, it is introduced in just a few cryptic comments about “the Clone Wars”, “the Old Republic”, “the Force”, et cetera.

The second film took a similar tact, albeit in a slightly different way; although the Rebellion had destroyed the Death Star, they were still on the run in constant hiding, and the movie opens as they’ve just gotten settled on Hoth only to be discovered by Imperial probes. We don’t know what has happened in the intervening period other than the brief description on the opening text crawl, but it is clear that the Empire is far from defeated. We get slightly more information in the form of Vader’s briefly unhooded head (from the back) and a video image of the Emperor, plus the introduction of Yoda as a Jedi master and trainer in hiding, some additional history on Han Solo and the Millennium Falcon, and Lando Calrissian mentioning how they manage to avoid direct conflict with the Empire, but the film spends very little time on exposition of any of these elements.

Episode VI struggled with this a bit; the next-to-worst element of the third film is the introduction of Jabba and his palace, which make no sense, wasn’t nearly as intimidating as this galactic criminal organization was made out to one, and incidentally has some of the worst effects has ever produced by Industrial Light and Magic. But beyond that and the clunky exposition by the ghost of Kenobi the film moves onward without trying to fill in the details of the history of the Empire or the larger struggle (other than the offhand comments about how many Bothans died to get the plans to the new Death Star), which makes the universe seem much more vast than the plot of the film would suggest.

The prequels, on the other hand, are all backstory. They exist purely to fill in what the viewer already knows is going to occur. They spend time on dragging scenes of interstellar commerce and politics and then tries to throw in space battles and lightsaber fights in almost random fashion to try to pepper things up. Objectively, the prequels have more story than the original trilogy, but it isn’t nearly as interesting or comprehensible. (Nor are the characters who often appear, do nothing of significance, and are killed off or abandoned in an almost clockwork fashion.) The viewer knows that Anakin will become Darth Vader so there is really zero tension on whether he’ll “turn to the dark side”, or whether Kenobi will escape the massacre of Jedi, or whatever. It also commits the cardinal sin of trying to provide a technobabble rationalization for “The Force”, which the original trilogy treated as a purely mystical plot device that needed no further explanation.

In a practical sense, Disney has “remove[d] the prequels from the canon” insofar as while The Force Awakens makes copious and often ham-fisted fan service references to the original trilogy, it makes essentially no reference whatsoever to the prequels; no mentions of the clonetrooper or warbot armies, no Jar-Jar Binks, virtually no mention of the Sith order, and very pointedly no midichlorians. Disney appears to be holding fairly strictly to the look, feel, and, to the extent that it exists at all, plot structure of the original Star Wars, and there is good reason to expect that they’ll do the same with the next two films without ever alluding to any events prior to Episode IV. To make some kind of announcement explicitly disowning the prequels would just bring up the topic into public discussion again. Ignoring those past offenses to sensibility, on the other hand, let’s sleeping dogs lie.

Stranger

I LOVE sci fi movies. I loved the early Star Wars. I’ve sat through some real stinkers over the years. Yeah, I too had to force myself to get through a couple of those.

Its pretty bad when you are home alone and you decide to bail on Jar Jar because you’d rather fart around in an AOL chat room.

Yeah, they have Ewan McGregor do one line as Obi-Wan Kenobi. Otherwise, did they reference the prequels at all?

Well, brothers and sisters, he has none…

I believe there is exactly one mention each of “Sith” and “clones,” and no details. The prequels really are functionally irrelevant to the new movie.

The Dude: Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.
Rotten Tomatos

Epi 1. 56%. Grossed: $1,027,044,677
II 66% and $649,398,328
III 79% (which rates pretty good)$848,754,768

Only epi 1 gets a rotten tomato, and that barely.