I vaguely recall interacting with some homeschooled kids when I was around 12 or so, and being appalled at their utter lack of the very basic scientific knowledge (like not knowing the difference between vertebrates and invertebrates). But I know of some other homeschooled kids who are just the opposite. I don’t think it should be banned, but I do think homsechooling parents should be required to have some sort of certification at least to demonstrate that they have the requisite knowledge to pass on to their kids what every member of the community should know (i.e. the basics about the world around them, the basics of history, the basics of how society works, etc.).
yeah, those are the kids that end up on food stamps and drugs.
When the Jonas Brother were beginning to become popular their parents had a conundrum as to how they would be educated. Which led to the question:
Should the band be homeschooled?
Wow. That’s the most bigoted thing I’ve seen posted here in a long time.
In fact, there are state approved home school programs that meet all applicable standards.
A simple example of why we don’t want either the government nor parents to have absolute control over children: What is an abused child to do? A child who’s being abused at home can tell their teachers, and a child who’s being abused at school can tell their parents. If we had an environment where children at school were completely isolated from their parents, then children would have nobody they could report abuse to… but nobody ever recommends that, because everyone recognizes that it would be terrible. But what about homeschooled children abused by their parents? What recourse do they have?
And yes, I know that of course most homeschooling parents don’t abuse their children, and it’s perfectly possible for a homeschooling situation to turn out great for everyone involved. But that’s not always the way it works, and so you need some way of dealing with the times when it doesn’t.
Not all of the standards. Like, say, the standards that the teachers have to meet.
Only to the extent that homeschooling meets the same standards of education as those not being homeschooled. The right to practice one’s religion doesn’t extend to the right to prevent their children from receiving the benefits of education.
Well, you could say exactly the same sentence about many school districts in the US. But that is not an argument to throw out public education.
The risk of some other parent doing a bad job is insufficient to ban mine from having done a good job. It doesn’t take much to do better than the worst schools in this country anyway.
Not the point. Licensed teachers educate other people’s kids. A parent is entitled to educate his own child, in compliance with state law. Some of them form co-ops, where several families get together for certain types of classes. Some of the parents are religious. Some of the kids have special needs.
There’s literally no regulation of private or home schools in Texas. You can do whatever you want. From the Texas website:
Here are the complete curricular requirements for private schools:
Look, I love homeschooling. We wanted to homeschool our son, but he likes school. I think it’s an important option for parents to have. But there’s also huge potential for abuse–both the potential for someone to hide physical abuse, and educational abuse.
I feel like a person’s right to religious freedom doesn’t trump each child’s right to the sort of education they need to be functional in society. If your religion teaches that women should be traditional wives, and that any education beyond about 6th grade is inappropriate, well, that traps those girls. They can’t leave later because they are economically dependent on their husbands, no matter how abusive those men are. They can’t challenge anything, because they can’t live outside the community. What are your thoughts on situations like that?
Since home-schooled children tend to exceed the standards of public education, banning home schooling is obviously not addressing that issue. The problem, as that Harvard harpy mentions, is that parents have too much authority and (in her ill-formed and bigoted opinion) the state has not enough. Thus they might [list=a][li]Grossly outperform the public schools, thus forming a group of well-educated over-achievers who will hurt the self-esteem of others, and Teach un-approved thought, which in the minds of the liberal elite always equates to racism/sexism/heresy. [/list]Teacher’s unions don’t want the competition, and liberals don’t want children to be taught anything but liberal thought. Hence the call to ban home-schooling. [/li]
Regards,
Shodan
Harpy again huh
Holy shit, this whole post.
OK, that’s actually a very good argument. I was once leery of living in the dorms for somewhat related reasons, visualizing a dispute about something academic affecting the security of my living situation or vice versa. Safer to not be in the embrace of the same institution at all times, etc.
Yes, it should be banned. IF by “Homeschooling” you mean taking the kid out of school so the kid gets nothing but taught at home- which far too often means brainwashing and indoctrination into religious cults.
Now, if a parent wants to give add’l instruction, other than public school- they yes, sure that is a great idea. My Dad was a teacher and taught me to read at a very early age. But I still went to public school- except 7 & 8th grade.
I would extend this to no more private schools even, unless their program is overseen by elected officials. I dont want any kids being taught that Evolution is fake or even worse- that being fucked by your dad who has twenty wives is A Good Thing.
Yes, I know that a good number of kids who are homeschooled get a better education. But nothing stops the Parent from giving that kid 2-4 hours of home instruction also.
Public school has more benefits that just education. Kids get socialized with other kids- of all races, creeds, and sexes. This helps stop racism.
Some homeschoolers do lack social skills.
Some homeschoolers are taught in the compound that it is Right and a Good thing to have daddy fuck them, as God wants it that way. Mind you, that is a small number, sure, but why handwave them away?
That makes sense. You get some well educated parents who will show that their kid wont be simply religiously brainwashed, and can make sure they kids get plenty of socialization, and fine.
You get Parents screaming it is Gods Will that their Child cannot attend the Godless public school- not so much.
remember those 9 kids that were beaten starved and other abuses? they were homeschooled in what 4 or 5states?
But people are forgetting there are 2 different kinds of homeschooling too… there’s the “you still register at a public school and do the work they give you just at home” type also where you go in once a week and a teacher does a lecture/explains it once a week
then you get the types that homeschool because of their beliefs the " my kids are going around o sinners darkies etc …