Should I try to find my seventh grade math teacher to tell him he was wrong?

Long story short: He inadvertently destroyed the teeny shred of confidence my 12-year-old self might have had and said I was worthless. I’ve proved him wrong. Should I try to find him and tell him he was wrong?

Here’s the deal: seventh grade was hell for me. I wouldn’t be diagnosed with depression and an anxiety disorder for several years, but that was probably the worst psychological state I was ever in. I literally had no friends at school. I was borderline suicidal. I had a speech problem, was the worst type of nerd, put up with constant bullying. Most of my teachers had taught my sister and expected me to be like her - straight A’s, a ‘team player’, naturally bright, always follows the rules, motivated. I was pretty much the opposite of all of that.

The absolute worst was math class. I hated Mr. K. I hated algebra. He did not hide his contempt for me. I was not naturally good at math, and did not work terribly hard, therefore I was a waste of time. I don’t remember the context, but he once told me, when I asked if maybe I could re-take a test I’d done poorly on, that I would never amount to anything, and that if he could, he would kick me out of his class and down into basic-skills math. On another occasion he called me a total failure.

Here is my most vivid memory of seventh grade, which despite my best efforts, I’m unable to forget: I was called on to give the answer to a homework question. I hadn’t been able to solve it, and said so. He told me to finish it now, and I said I didn’t know how. He said everyone else in the class did, we’d gone over it a number of times, and we’d wait until I solved it. A few kids in the class started laughing at me. I began to stammer a bit as I tried to answer: “Um…uh…”

Mr. K, to the tremendous amusement of the class, began to mock me by imitation. “Um, um, um.”

After a few more seconds, I felt a panic attack coming on, grabbed my books and ran out of class, spending the remainder of the period sitting hyperventilating, and then crying, on the bathroom floor. Nothing was ever said, by anyone, about the incident.

So, basically, Mr. K was kind of a dick, and I was a spineless little kid who was bad at math and didn’t think to ask him to stop, or to complain to my parents, or anything. Failure all around.

Fast-forward ten years to today. I am now 22. I am in my senior year of college. I have not made any particular impact on the world, but I haven’t been a total failure. I was accepted to a decent college. I have lived, alone, in two different foreign countries. I’ve held down full-time jobs, learned how to speak mostly without stammering, dated wonderful people, held down a part-time job while going to school full time…and, oh, yes, I’m now in my fourth year of college-level math and I’m studying quantum mechanics. My parents have not given up on me, which I imagine means I’m not, in fact, a total failure.

He was wrong. If I’d had the spine to argue with him then, I would have been right. And for some reason, I have a perverse urge to see if he hasn’t kicked the bucket yet, and if not, send him a nicely-written nastygram telling him that he was a horrible math teacher, pretty much a jerk, and most importantly, he was quite wrong about me.

On the other hand, that’s immature and petty. If he is still around he’ll be in his seventies, and going through any sort of effort to call a seventy-year-old man a jerk is just…well, a jerkish move. One that would be deeply satisfying, but still…I don’t know how satisfying I’d find it once I put that letter in the mail.

So there’s my conundrum. For some reason I’m unable to get it out of my mind lately. Again, on some level I should just let it go - because seriously, holding a grudge from when I was 12 is just lame - but another part of me really wants to rub where I am now in his face.

Opinions, thoughts, suggestions, ‘been there done that’ stories, advice to stop fixating on seventh grade - any of that is welcome.

The man wasn’t a “kind of a dick.” He was a sadistic motherfucker who should never have sullied the teaching profession with his presence.

If he’s as much of an asshole as he was then, your letter won’t do any good anyway.

Living well is the best revenge – and you are doing just that. Enjoy your success!

Don’t waste your time trying to show up this jerkwad. Keep in mind, he’s a lowly middle school teacher (the worst kind of teaching job imaginable) and he’s in a dead-end job and probably has diabetes now and a mortgage and two alimonies and child support payments he can barely afford. He hates himself and his own life so much, that he has to bully young, weak students. Maybe one of them will rise up and shoot him & a bunch of other kids someday, would that be satisfying?

Besides, you’re only 22, you haven’t proven yourself a “success” yet. That’s not to say you never will be, and best of luck to you, but I’d wait until you’re at least 35 before you start judging your life as more successful than his.

The best revenge is living well.

I’m a 7th Grade teacher and I can tell you: teachers like that won’t be affected either way by your return.

If you go back or write a letter, he may even see it as a confirmation of how insecure you were(and still are in his mind).

I’d leave it.

Most of us teachers are quite good, by the way. :slight_smile:

What freckafree said. Don’t allow this guy to take up emotional space. Living well is always the best revenge. He is probably a shriveled up bitter old man, who has nothing better to do than to snipe other people. Do you really want to seek interaction with that?

I DO recommend finding old beloved teachers though. I wrote a letter to my HS Latin teacher and now have a great pen pal. Focus on positive contributions in your life rather than negative. And congratulations! :slight_smile:

How about if you check back with your old school to see if he’s still teaching there? He may not be nearly as old as he looked from a 12-year-old’s perspective. So, if he’s still there, you could send a calm, collected letter to whoever’s in charge relating your experience. Why should this creep be allowed to crush other little kids’ spirits?

And please don’t think of yourself as spineless. You were 12!! Geez…

I’m glad you posted this. I had a college professor who was simply evil in a casual, I’m-too-busy-not-to-crush-you way. Now that we are quasi-colleagues I’ve long debated whether and how I should let her know, but threads like this confirm that a saner, more sensible course is to let it go.

As a teacher myself I am amazed when I read crap like this. My responsibility is to help my students be the best they can be (read those last 4 words again), and going negative like that would be absolutely unthinkable. If you lack any shred of empathy and compassion you are in the wrong profession (doesn’t mean you have to be spineless either). I had a 3rd grade teacher who was constantly PMSing or something and made it her job to single me out and ignore similar sins that other students committed. She (must be in her 70’s now) stands as a shining negative role model in the back of my mind when a student doesn’t “get” something right away or misbehaves. That’s my “revenge.”

If you feel like a face-to-face encounter with him will heal the wounds and help you get over his abuse, then go for it.

But I also think there’s a chance you will feel some embarrassment. You aren’t a 12-year-old kid any more. All of that happened a LONG time ago. Do you really want to admit to some guy who’s probably forgotten all about you that you haven’t forgotten about him? Do you really want to give him that sense of satisfaction?

Why not write an anonymous note? Lay out all the shit he did to you, how small you felt when you were in his class, how worthless he was as a teacher, and then tell him about how successful you are now. You can be as eloquent as you want and you don’t have to worry about being overcome with emotion or being interrupted. Or worse, bullied again.

I once sent an old teacher an anonymous note. I found out my eighth grade English teacher was retiring and I sent her a letter telling her how great she was and all the wonderful things I learned in her class. I sent it anonymously because I didn’t want her to feel obligated to write me back, and I wasn’t sure she would remember me anyway. My identity wasn’t important anyway. The purpose of the letter wasn’t to brag about myself , but to hold up mirror and say, “This is what you are!”

That’s why you need to do with this guy.

I disagree with this. If they really are an asshole, they aren’t going to care, and if they have become a better person, it will devastate them without any way to beg pardon or make amends.

If you must send an anonymous negative note, send it to the principal. The principal can look at it and if it confirms other, on-going reports, it will be important reinforcement. If, on the other hand, this guy has gotten medicated or sobered up or gotten out of his own hellish abusive marriage (I am thinking of things that could resolve themselves), then it will be discarded.

Personally, I wouldn’t go see him. Closure is internal. Furthermore, I am sure his perception of events is very different than yours, and while his may be wholly inaccurate, his perception is his reality. He is not going to trust your perceptions over his own–no one does that.

He is long retired - write the note as a catharsis and don’t send it.

(I had a similar math teacher at a similar age…and still have similar fantasies…and I have twenty years on you.)

Don’t do it. He might think he’s partly responsible for your success. Some people think belittling others is a motivational tool.

Yeah, I’m thinking that’s probably the best option.

The school district lists faculty on the individual school pages, and I checked all three middle schools and both high schools - it doesn’t look like he’s working for them anymore. I’m pretty certain he was at least in his fifties when I had him, so he’s almost certainly retired by now.

Thanks for the input, guys. It’s just been something I kind of felt I needed to get off my chest and, in reality, confirm that it’s not worth much effort.

Not everyone should be a teacher. But for those who do go into teaching, a belief in the student’s right to dignity and help form the basis for everything that goes on in the classroom.

It looks as if you have put most of this behind you, and I would urge you to look in the mirror and recognize that you have reached far beyond what he saw. Unfortunately, self esteem sometimes must come from ourselves, not others. You know what you have done, regardless of the negative experiences that you had. And You did it! Sounds like you’re a pretty wonderful example to me, (and it should to you too)

I doubt that you can do anything about this particular teacher, but a note to the School Board with copies to the District Superintendent and School Principal would be more effective than writing to the teacher himself.

I taught for 30 years, and find this sort of thing to be reprehensible. But then I actually loved teaching and my students…quite a wonderful way to go through life.

Be peaceful in yourself.

One math teacher told me I’d be somebody some day. I was so shocked/surprised, I asked him to repeat it. He said it twice more on different occasions. When I get this job next month, I’m going to go back and visit him to let him know I did it.

THOSE are the teachers you should write to.

Why not send the guy a letter? You can’t possibly make him more miserable than he already likely is, and you might get some baggage off your chest. Write him a classy, intelligent letter and let him know, without being an asshole yourself, exactly what kind of person you turned out to be. Don’t let him forget what he did to you.

edit: assuming you can find him of course. i missed the post where you said he doesn’t appear to be working at the same place anymore. don’t waste too much time tracking him down.

If he cares at all, he will claim “victory” for your success, from pushing you towards it or whatever.

But, uhh, I hate to be the one to tell you . . . at 22, still in college, you’ve got a long way to go before you’re the adult you’ll grow into. I’m 5 years older than you, own a house, been married 3 and a half years, have a kid on the way, and I still feel like a kid myself a lot of times. You haven’t “made it” yet (and that’s not to say that I have) :).

When you’re 30, I think, on the rare occasions that you think of this guy, you’ll kind of giggle to yourself for a second, and then forget about him again, perhaps for years at a time.

Maybe he’s dead. If he is, find his grave and dance on it. And then punch the ground right where his face would be.

The Beatles had some words of wisdom that may be appropriate here: Let it be.

It was ten years ago. It doesn’t sound like it affected how you got to where you are today. You’ve done a lot you can be proud of. Let your memories of this guy stop bothering you, and look to the future. It sounds like you have a bright one.

When I think of similar things that happened to me ten, twenty, or thirty years ago, I have a hard time getting angry over them. Mainly because they were years ago and no matter how demeaning, degrading, and insulting they seemed at the time, they didn’t stop me from getting to where I am today. If I do get bothered, I just recall that I’ve done a number of things that the people who knocked me down will never do. Time really does heal–let it do the same for you.

In short: Let it be.