Should Mom-and-Pops That Forgo Gay Weddings Be Destroyed?

I ran into someone today on Facebook who said that gays shouldn’t be pushing their sex lives onto other people.

Which is *totally *what a wedding does. :smack:

All that aside, I don’t understand how asking a business that sells flowers or cake to people getting married, to sell flowers or cake to a gay couple, is any kind of religious imposition.

Business owners don’t have to approve of their clients, nor do they have to have coitus with them; they just have to do provide the businesses goods or services to them.

And people wonder why I’m a cynic.

You’re forgetting something that’s very very important.

We aren’t robots who operate just fine as long as we have our basic physical needs met. We are also social, emotional animals. We all function better when we feel like we belong and that we’ve been dealt a fair hand in life.

When some members of society are favored over others for no freakin’ good reason, it makes people experience a whole lotta negative emotions. These negative emotions make them operate in a suboptimal fashion. They are more likely to suffer mental and physical illness and engage in self-destructive behavior. They are more likely to detached from society altogether and become anti-social. They are more likely to raise children who behave in a suboptimal fashion. Which only makes it more likely that they will continue to become discriminated against.

So it first starts off being about diamond rings and wedding cakes. Then one day the dry cleaner says they don’t want to keep doing Mr. Fancy-Pants laundry because AIDS! Then the teachers start going, “Hmm, well if those guys can get a religious exemption, why can’t we? Don’t we have rights?” and suddenly the gay kids are being kicked out of class. Now all the gay families are walking around town in unlaundered clothes, with illiterate children, and the rest of the town folk–who maybe don’t have anything against homosexuals–now are discriminating against them because they are stupid and stinky. And the gay families are demoralized and stigmitized and living on the outskirts of society, not being functional at all.

It’s easy to say, “Well, they should move!” But moving only entrenches the problem and makes it worse for those who have no ability to move.

All businesses operate with the permission of the government. The services of government enable and facilitate enterprise. The government is the people. If my tax dollars are supporting the infrastructure you’re taking advantage of to make a profit, then I should be able to walk into your business and reap some of those benefits too.

Individual businesses are owned, run, and staffed by people. The business isn’t some kind of magical entity that provides goods and services; the people who own, run, and work there do.

Pertinent Funny or Die video.

I love how the side that claims to be for “family values” also claims that marriage is a luxury that people can do without.

I never have understood why the gay couple cannot just go to a different place?

Look, its a damn wedding cake and the other case was a photographer. Its nothing life saving. This is just your typical “In your face” gay bullshit of gays trying to stomp out anyone who questions them and shove their shit down everyones throats. I’d bet the people involved are now riding on a float on a gay pride parade somewhere and are the toast of the queer community. They are the pink Rosa Parks you know!

And all the crap gays have spewed about wanting to be left alone and just be free. Its all a freaking LIE! I dont know whats in their heads but it is not being a respected part of society.

Sorry for the rant.

I assuredly agree that people are better off when they are respected. But respect has to be earned. Niceness cannot be legally mandated.

Depends on the type of school! A public school should accept all students. A private school should be free to only teach left-handed large-breasted Iranian atheists with quicksand fetishes and bipolar disorder, if it wanted to.

Tax dollars also support the infrastructure private homes take advantage of. But that doesn’t give me the right to hang out in your kitchen if you don’t want me there.

Or, they want to be famous in the gay community and what better way to get to be the pride of the Pride parade than being the person who shuts down a business.

I mean are gays just running around begging and pleading for some business to slight them so they can go after them? What’s wrong with just taking your money somewhere else?

Let’s play “replace the adjective!” in urbanredneck’s post!

Nope. No bigotry there.

So often, the pro-discrimination side says “Gosh, I would want to KNOW if someone didn’t want my business! Why would I want to do business with someone who hated me?”

I think every one of us could tolerate someone discriminating against us if we knew it was only going to to be once in our lives. But we know from history, we know from experience, and we know from just using our calculators or fingers PLUS toes that it’s not ever going to be just encountering one bigot somewhere once.

Sure, we can suck it up once. We can’t suck it up our whole lives.

Funny, I respect gay people.

And those negroes can go to another lunch counter.

It’s not like every place in town is going to be closed to them. (Except…sometimes.)

It appears this man has somehow gotten his hands on a copy of the infamous gay agenda. He understands gays are just looking to get scalps they can show off at pride parades.

I never run around looking for businesses to slight me. I just don’t want the possibility I’ll have to make multiple stops when I travel to get a fucking pizza because the first place I stopped in told me I can’t get one there because I’m a fag. Are they going to reimburse me for the wasted time? I only have so much time on this planet and want to spend as little of it as possible going place to place in hopes that they won’t turn me away.

Really? You have walked into a pizza place and they had a sign which said “No Gays Allowed”?

Its a stupid cake. I mean if you were willing to pay the kind of money a good wedding cake costs, wouldn’t you want one to be exactly what you want it to be from a baker who will totally understand your needs? Heck if it was me I’d want a person who could do the most beautiful cake which shows the personality and feelings of me and my partner. Why would you want to mess with some breeder who might not have a clue or even be able to find a 2 grooms to put on the top?

Maybe you aren’t looking for “scalps” but many others are.

When they go out of their way to destroy a small business just because they disagree with them?

The black bakery/KKK party cake issue? Already happened, and the courts sided with the KKK.

I’m a cashier in a store owned and managed by Hassidic Jews. I have provided my services for many Muslim women and two young guys dressed in swastika jackets. The manager came and stood at my register for the latter two, but nothing was said.

We provide the same gift bag with three types of printing on it: To The Bride and Groom, To The Happy Couple, and For the Two of You. Some bigoted idiot complained that we were “promoting homosexuality.” He got quite loud and vocal about it. The Hassidic Jewish manager told him to leave or he would call the police. And no, he did not agree with the guy and he has no problem providing our services for obvious gay couples. When he overheard my sister mention “my wife” in the store, he did not bat an eye.

The owners of Memories Pizza told a TV news crew that they would refuse to cater a same-sex wedding, even though they had apparently never been asked to cater a same-sex wedding. So I think it would be more fair to say that the owners were running around begging same-sex marriage/gay-rights supporters to take offense at their policy.

People are fixated on the cake thing, like we are ONLY talking about “stupid cakes”. Do you really think a religious exemption law would be limited to stupid bakeries and stupid cakes?

A realtor could refuse to help a gay couple buy a house because GAYS FORNICATING ABOMINATION!!!

Daycare centers could refuse to take children of a gay couple because GAYS PROCREATING ABOMINATION!!!

If the stupid cake makers can get a religious exemption, why WOULDN’T all the other townfolk also be eligible for one? If the homos can be legally discriminated against, why not all sinners?

The Bible says “Don’t suffer a witch to live.” Can the private ambulance operator claim religious exemption when the call comes in for the Wiccan? Why not? He’s just one person, and the Wiccan can find someone else to take her to the hospital, right?

I don’t want to live in a society this.

It’s always so fascinating to me that Jesus was compassionate to prostitues and sinners, love the sinner hate the sin and all that; but that Christian businesses like these freak out at a mutually beneficial exchange of goods and services. Sure, “Christian” businesses.