Should raw milk be illegal?

How many of these books have you read, that you can come to this conclusion? I see the makings of a libel suit here. I doubt that the publishers would appreciate this kind of defamation in a public forum.

My specific objective is proper nutri.tion–and I will be damned if I will slog thriough thick trati.ses by “large professional bodies” for the information, or do anything else who;se objective

How many of these books have you read, in order to make this conclusion?

My specific objective is to get information on proper nutrition. I do not want to slog through thick volumes on the subject prepared by “large professional bodies” any more than I want to take a chance with lesser-known and potentially less reliable sources. But your generalization sounds libelous. I guess you mean that for a book on nutrition to be displayed and sold in a health-food store is the kiss of death!
I have personally been getting dietary counsel from a dietician I was sent to by my physician; she is employed by a local hospital as such. And I am not of a mind to round up and jail individuals who chose to become nutritionists solely because they did not become affiliated with “large professional bodies.”

Does this dietician you’re consulting advise you to drink raw milk?

She has never mentioned milk.

On what grounds would they be able to sue him for libel? :dubious:

Boy, that would be a fun case: “You stand accused of stating that books sold in health food stores ‘are not reknown as reliable sources of accurate information’ and that ‘more often than not they are written by outside the pants underwear wearers.’ How do you plead?” :slight_smile: Will I need to bring in pictures of authors with their underpants on the outside their pants or pay damages?

Fortunately dougie despite your attraction to books often designed to sell fads to the guillible written by any schnook who wants to call themselves a nutritionist (they are the ones that have caught your eye since those are the ones you’ve named), you are actually going to a certified dietician and put some importance on the advice you get from trained mainstream professionals.

Go figure. Why do you not just go to someone who have a card up on the wall of a health food store declaring him/herself a nutritionist ready to tell you why following the advice of the professional bodies (which is the information a certified dietician, who works out of a hospital, who you were referred to by a qualified physician, will endorse) is all wrong and what you should do instead on the basis or his/her having said it is true?

Truth is an absolute defense to libel (not to mention that public figures must prove actual malice in defamation suits.)

How about this?
Originally Posted by DSeid
Pretty much exactly that. Books in health food stores are not reknown as reliable sources of accurate information. More often than not they are written by outside the pants underwear wearers.

I wouldn’t appreciate having one of my authors demeaned in a public forum!

Oh, negligence or idle stupidity isn’t enough? And I challenge you to find “truth” that isn’t a product of your imagination. :rolleyes:

Now I know you made THIS one up. I never said I was attracted to them. I had a friend who gave me the Fredericks book; I bought the Adelle Davis book, true, but I lost interest and discarded it after a few years. As I said earlier, those were the only two nutritionists whom I remembered–and I have not necessarily agreed with them (as I noted), or with any other nutritionist.

The only point of libel is that you claim that [all] nutritionists whose books are displayed and sold in health-food stores are of the mentality that prompts them to wear their underwear on the outside. THAT is libel. Especially if I print this thread out and show your statements to the owner of a health-food store–and no, I don’t know any of them personally; the one I used to know is long gone.

Yes, I will go out on a limb here and say that any book that promises to be a revolutionary approach, to tell you why everything others have told you is all wrong, to supercharge your metabolism, to tell you how lose a pound a day every day, about how all grains are poisoning your brain, that raw milk is better for you than pasteurized, that pH balance is the key to everything, that what you eat should be determined by your blood type, that Candida causes all sorts of problems, that high doses of green tea extract are key to health, that all animal protein is toxic, that almost all animal protein is key to good health, pretty much anything written by someone whose qualification is them calling themselves “a world reknown nutritionist” and some who have M.D. after their names as well, and on and on, the mainstays of many of those popular selling books sold in health food stores, are the works of people who (metaphorically) are wearing their underwear on the outside of their pants. It’s what sells.

No answer? Why do you not go to someone whose card you see up on the wall of a health food store declaring him/herself “a nutritionist” instead of your doctor and the certified dietician your doctor referred you to?

Opinions do not create liability in defamation law in the United States.

My next appointment with the dietician is in June. By then I’ll likely have collected quite a few of your ridiculous nutritional claims, as given above, which I’ve never heard anywhere else. She’ll probably get a good laugh out of them. And I WILL, I promise, seriously, discuss this issue of raw milk with her.

Please list what you believe have been my ridiculous nutritional claims.

And why not answer my question? Why a dietician and not some nutritionist name from the wall?

I hope you’ll return and tell us what the dietician says about raw milk. I’ll go out on a limb and predict that she advises against it.

Ever read Ready for the Plaintiff! by Melvin Belli?

Then publishing probably isn’t the industry for you.

I didn’t say you made ridiculous nutritioinal claims. I said you ridiculed people you don’t know by making a defamatory claim about their mentality! I never claimed you knew anything about nutrition.

And I go to this dietician because I was so directed by my doctor. Next question, please?

Then again, I doubt you were meant to be a literary critic. :smiley:

Why do you listen to your doctor rather than taking the name of a nutritionist of the wall?

Btw, each of those ridiculous statements? Real books some best sellers today others very trendy written by self declared leading experts in the past.