OK, where do you draw the line? Just how much is Trump above the law? He would probably be impeached for murder. What about treason? How about if he agreed to lower sanctions on Russia if Russia helped him get elected? Would that be enough for you?
Are you familiar with the phrase “the cure is worse than the disease?” Or perhaps, “we had to destroy the village in order to save it?”
Of course. And it worries my Wife. But, we must not allow this kind of crap. Unless it is shown that we will not allow criminal morons in the Oval Office, it will just get worse and worse. Do you want to amputate the toe now? Or the whole leg later.
PotUS should be required to obey every law to the letter. If they throw a gum wrapper on the sidewalk, that’s a fine and they better pay it.
The position is number one for upholding the Constitution and all the laws below it. Leadership includes leading by example.
Imagine this scenario:
It’s early 2021. Kamala Harris was elected last November, has taken her Oath of Office, and is settling into the White House. One of Trump’s last acts as President was to appoint loyalists to head the DoJ.
The DoJ soon announce they have credible information that Ms. Harris conspired with and bribed election officials in key states to alter her vote totals. She is arrested and jailed. Of course, it fizzles out with an “oops, we were wrong” a few weeks (or months, years) later.
Is this what you want the political metagame to go back to? Because jailing your political opponents is a time-honored tradition.
This shit is already going on. We are already there, except when a Republican does it, they look the other way. The entire GOP must be taken down. Starting with Trump.
In theory, of course the president is not above the law. But unless the opposition has around 63-65 Senators, there aren’t going to be enough votes to convict. What I hope is that the SDNY issues sealed indictments against DJT, and that would circumvent any statute of limitations issues.
In practice, Democratic presidents are bound by the law but not protected by it, Republican presidents are protected by the law but not bound by it.
I sorta think we can vote him out if we try.
Not a chance; he has an “R” next to his name, therefore he is above the law. Simple as that. He could rape or murder or commit treason, boast of it publicly and nothing would happen to him.
About all he could do that would get him impeached would be if he started shooting Republican congressmen. Not Democrats; they’d never impeach him for killing Democrats.
This isn’t already going on, because it’s not possible to indict a sitting President on criminal charges.
We are face-to-face with the reality that the rule of law requires people to act with integrity to uphold it. It’s not possible to legislate your way out of that, and the last thing you want to do when people abuse the power of government is to make the government even more powerful. That doesn’t end well.
Jesus, Democrats. Just put up anybody **not worse than him, and he’ll be gone.
Can you fucking manage that?
“Nobody is above the law, and nobody is beneath it.” - Theodore Roosevelt
It remains to be seen if this is still true, alas.
They can, and* did,* and won the popular vote. Trump is in office because the system is designed to favor the Republicans, not because the Democrats are less popular.
I don’t know why people claim this is exclusively Republican behavior. Ted Kennedy is proof you can let somebody die and still get elected and praised by your party.
It would be almost impossible not to put up someone better. The question is whether or not the election will be fairly contested. As we saw in Georgia last year, American elections are not always guaranteed to be real elections.
Did that. ‘We’ put up someone 1000 times better than him. Didn’t work, did it.
(actually there is no matrix to measure Trump against others. We are talking different planet type stuff)
The president is subject to the law. As per the constitution. If he kills Melania, congress (house) will have to decide if that constitutes a high crime or misdemeanor, and if so, impeach him. Then the Senate will have to decide to convict, or not. If that system doesn’t work, it’s not the law, it is the manner in which elected representatives and senators discharge their duties. A matter remedied easily every two resp. six years.
There is good reason why the constitution tells us how to deal with this, and how. As mentioned by many posters above, if any form of law enforcement had jurisdiction over the president, chaos would soon ensue.
I think the word president shouldn’t be above the lower case.
A citation is a courtesy in most states. Police still have the power to make a custodial arrest even for minor traffic violations. What would happen if it that county that hated Obama, that was insisted upon?
Wait, wait…
Didn’t the French also address that sticky issue in the Magna Carta, roughly a half-millenium ago?
And didn’t the Colonies (thereafter known as the political experiment called the United States) use that Magna Carta (and, in particular, those particular models therein) as the core of their new Constitution?
I realize the “United” part has become something of a global joke, but I don’t recall any news about that Constitution being revised to exclude the part about governmental leader-types NOT being immune to legal prosecution.
Was I asleep during that event?
–G!