(I’m too tired for a real Pit rant, but this got my goat…)
So it’s the first night in forever that I’ve had both the time and the inclination to veg in front of the television, and all the channels have been commandeered by “America: A Tribute to Heroes”. Sure, it sounded like it might be bad, but with Springsteen, Billy Joel, Neil Young, U2…how bad could it be?
A lot of what I saw wasn’t that bad. Most of the songs seemed half-hearted, as they usually do when a band is trying to do a live show without a live audience. (Especially Tom Petty. Has he gained a lot of weight, or is it the beard?)
But who the hell were those fucksticks doing “Wish You Were Here”? They were doing a bad job of it to begin with, and then they got to their new lyrics. The new verse was about what you’d expect–something about being able to stop everybody from hating. Then they tried to sound all sentimental around the chorus, adding “Glad you were here…”
This always chaps my ass–a big tragedy happens, and someone takes a song written for someone else and makes up new, timely lyrics. (See also Elton John.) To me, it’s like scraping one person’s name off a tombstone and carving in someone else’s name. If you feel bad enough to construct a tribute, construct a damn tribute–don’t cut and paste someone else’s.
As for those cockwrenches, whoever they were, I can only hope that Syd Barrett comes out of his parents’ basement and personally beats some ass.
Damned if he don’t! I hear “Ohio” and I get pissed like it was thirty years ago! Missed him on this show, though. I walked into the room when those guys started the Floyd rape and asked wife, “Who are these people who can’t sing?”
“I don’t know, but there have sure been a lot of people who match that description on this show.”
I just have to hijack for a moment to say a word about Elton John and Candle in the Wind.
Elton John and his partner wrote a beautiful, poignant song about Marilyn Monroe. Later, Elton John devoted much time and energy to the AIDS cause. Through this cause, he became a personal friend of Diana, Princess of Wales. At the same time, the song became a symbol of the AIDS movement, and was played by many people, including Elton John himself, to commemorate those who died of AIDS. The song took on a more universal meaning about senseless loss.
When Diana was killed in a car accident, it seemed inevitable that the poignant song associated with one of her causes would become a tribute to her. Elton John and his partner wrote some additional lyrics to their own song to pay tribute to Elton’s friend. Proceeds from the sale of the song were donated to Diana’s charities.
I just don’t get where the bashing surrounding all of this comes in. Of course, that doesn’t mean that all rewrites of songs are appropriate. But this one was.[/hijack]
I heard Bernie Taupin on the radio before Diana’s death and he described their songwriting method as “Elton sends me a tape with the music and I fax him lyrics to fit the music.” As Elton is the tune guy, following that method, he wouldn’t have had anything to do with WRITING that song after he wrote the tune in 1972. But he gets all the credit.
This is why I don’t like to post in the Pit. No matter what I say, I get jumped on.[sub]boohoo, poor pitiful little SpoilerVirgin, afraid of the Pit…[/sub]
I added the words “and his partner” specifically because I wanted to give credit to the author of the lyrics. I just couldn’t remember exactly how to spell Bernie Taupin’s name, and took the coward’s way out.
I still feel that the criticism of the rewrite of Candle in the Wind that I’ve seen in a number of SDMB threads is unwarranted.
Um, excuuuuuuuuse me. I think if you bother to go read a few of the other threads around here, you’ll see that we are all very much attuned to the horrific disaster of 9/11/01
That does NOT mean that it takes precedence over every other aspect of our lives and what we care about. I think the current push is that we should stay motivated to find the monsters that did this, but “Get on with our lives” so as to not let the terrorists win. Well, Reeder Welcome to “Getting on with our lives”. I can’t fault the sentiment, but I will fault the execution here. “Wish You Were Here” already had a purpose when it was written, and the song happens to mean a lot to some of us. I’ll certainly agree that at times in the past, listening to it has brought tears to my eyes thinking about someone I’ve lost. That doesn’t give me the right to add another verse to the song on national television, major tragedy or no. But if integrity in music isn’t something you care about, then feel free to to listen to Milli Vanilli and Vanilla Ice, and leave us to our rant about Pink Floyd.
(I will say that while I didn’t much care for the re-write of "Candle in the Wind either, I can’t fault Sir Elton for that. At least it’s his own damn music.)
I, for one, don’t have a hole to crawl back into. So you’ll pardon me if I don’t crawl off anywhere. But if the music you’re playing doesn’t express the sentiment you need, then please have the decency to write your own.
Let’s put it this way… I greatly enjoy Wish You Were Here. I find the song to be very emotionally rewarding, and calming. The changes as were described in the OP ruin the song. It gives it a whole 'nother meaning, a meaning that - IMOSHO - is detrimental to the overall effect of the song. And these changes were made simply to add more feel-good quality to it, nothing more.
Yeah. It says I don’t like it when someone fucks up a good song. What do you think it says about me, O Pinnacle Of Wisdom?