Shut up USA

Half the world manages to love football (soccer) with a passion and pretty much keep out of each other’s faces, get on well with eachother, and be good natured.

Now A few Yanks get slightly interested and suddenly you can’t turn a corner without some Yank shouting in your face saying “we win everything, now we’re gonna win the world cup!” or something equally annoying and arrogant. I am happy for America to be doing well. In fact, before I started to notice all the arrogance everywhere I would have been glad if USA won it. I was really rooting for them, but now I don’t want america to win, because I know they’ll never shut up about it!

I thought about not posting this because I knew I’d be flamed to hell, but fuck-it I’m annoyed!

Get out of my face please.

And no I fucking won’t give you any cites, I am venting ok? I do not want to get into any arguments I just want to get this out

So, exactly how much did you lose betting on Mexico’s team?

:rolleyes:

All finished now?

…and pretty much keep out of each other’s faces, get on well with each other, and be good natured…

So war is good natured?

Mr. Blue Sky, hooliganism is predominantly a problem with club football, not international football. And even then, it is localised and luckily limited to a few complete idiots, who unfortunately manage to spoil a lot for the real fans.

lobley, I am curious where those in-yer-face Americans are. The majority of the 1000+ Americans in my office either don’t care about football, or are highly surprised about their teams progress. Haven’t seen one claiming they’re gonna win the world cup yet.

Although it would be a hoot, if you ask me.

Tars, the football war just indicated how seriously some people take their football. :slight_smile:

What andros, Mr. Blue Sky, and Tars Tarkas said.

That’s pretty amusing lobley, considering that anybody with a particle of brain tissue could see that the USA team is really up against it.

They’re good to get this far, but it won’t get easier.

That’s what is so nice about being American. We just don’t give a shit one way or the other whether a British mama’s boy roots for us or against us. Y’all must have some sort of massive inferiority complex. Why else would it make you so uncomfortable when an American says “We’re going to win?”

Incidentally there were a lot of foreigners in Dallas during the World Cup and many of them seemed to think that their country was going to win. Of course since we’re talking about soccer nobody in the states really paid much attention.

Marc

lobley wrote:

" Half the world manages to love football (soccer) with a passion and pretty much keep out of each other’s faces, get on well with eachother, and be good natured."


I am not into sports,I know zilch about soccer, other than it is considered a sport that is more popular in countries other than the USA.
All I EVER see or hear about soccer games are the riots and destuction that occurs after the games,sometimes people are killed or seriously hurt. To say that they all get along well with each other and are good natured does not not jive at all with what I have seen.

People get hyped up about sports,accept it. I do. I just ignore it and move on. There is no need to get your drawers in a knot. It’s not personal,it’s a game. No lives hang in the balance, the Earth will not be knocked out of orbit-it’s a fucking game. It’s supposed to be FUN! Seems to me people forget that entirely too much.

I’ll tell you what’s obnoxious in three words…David Fucking Beckham.

Go Brasil!!!

I couldn’t believe it when I heard that a player from Colombia (I think his name was Andres Escobar) fucked up during a game, and scored a goal for the wrong side, and was shot when he arrived back home in Colombia.

Sure, soccer’s great and fun, and I totally appreciate that people like it. However, I just can’t understand what’s so darn important about it that it causes people to shoot each other. This could also be because I’m not into sports, but it just seems really extreme to me.

-The Wrong Girl
(who’s just finished reading Bill Buford’s “Among the Thugs”)

I’m not a soccer fan at all. I’d rather watch hockey, american football, or rugby. But last week I worked a 12 hour shift until 4 am, went to Denny’s, then to a friends house at 6:15 to watch the USA vs Poland game. As I stated, I’m not a die hard fan, but I do like cheering on my country whenever I can. However I am not an ass about it, especially seeing as how it’s only by the grace of God (and Portugal losing 2 men to red cards) that we even advanced to the next round. I don’t think we have anything to brag obnoxiously about, I’m just loving the excitement it all brings. Next time so ass-helmet comes up to you and starts with the comments, ask if he even watched the fucking Poland game.

Up next (I think) - USA vs. Germany. Damn, my mutherland vs. my homeland. Gotta love it! Plus it beats watching baseball now that hockey is over. :smiley:

Haven’t we been over this before?

lobley, the United States consists of some ten million square miles of territory, inhabited by over a quarter of a billion people. People who come from, quite literally, every culture on Earth. The only generalization you could make about such huge, disparate group of people spread over so much land that could be even remotely accurate is, “They’re all carbon-based lifeforms.” Well, that and, “They’re not terribly interested in soccer.”

Now, yes, some American soccer fans are a little too excited about how our team is doing. The same can be said about fans from every other country, too. Hell, didn’t one South American player get killed because he blew a kick in the last World Cup? People (all people) take sports (all sports) way too seriously. This is hardly unique to Americans. So singling out Americans for scorn over this issue is a tad unfair, no?

Secondly, as I mentioned, there are not a huge number of American soccer fans in the world, especially in comparison to our population as a whole. Yet here we have your thread, with the title, “Shut up USA,” followed by an OP in which you attribute a number of negative traits to all Americans. Well, I’m an American. Yet I’m not “shouting in your face.” I didn’t even know our team was doing well until I opened this thread. Hell, I only found out last week that the World Cup only happens once every four years. So here you are, telling me to shut up, and I’m not even saying anything. You can see why this might make someone angry, right? It really pissed me off, which is why this is draft three, without all the swear words and slurs on your lineage. Now I just know that, if you respond at all to this, you’re going to say something like, “Well, I wasn’t talking about you, I was only talking about Americans who do the thing I’m complaining about.” But you aren’t. You tarring all Americans with that OP, and ignoring the fact that y’all are pretty tar-stained yourselves.

I asked you this in your last pit thread about your misperceptions of American attitudes and behaviors, but I you never responded (not surprising, considering the virtiol you had stirred up. In fact, I again doubt that you’ll ever read this post, because of the volume of insults I’m sure have piled up while I composed it) So I’ll ask it again: how many Americans do you know in real life? Are any of your friends or family members American? Any co-workers? People you met on Usenet or characters from television don’t count. I’m talking actual, real life flesh and blood Americans. I somehow suspect that the number is pretty small. Maybe two, probably less.

I really, really hope that you take my advice to heart and try and learn something from the drubbing you’re about to take here, because damned if I don’t think there’s hope that you could turn out to be a decent Doper. So, in that spirit, I leave you with the immortal words of Samuel Goldwyn, who once said, “All generalizations are bad.”

Words to live by.

Actually, coming from lobley, this thread surprises me not at all.

Dearest Lobley,

May your ears turn into assholes and shit on your shoulders.

That is all.

Skydive:

Your use of “hand of God” is really relevant here. Turns out that one member of the US team had actually punched the ball away, which isn’t allowd, and the officials missed it. ISTR that there was a winning goal a while back in another World Cup match the player who made it attributed to the “Fist of God.” Turns out that was actually his own fist.

Monty, that was Maradonna, who played for Argentina not the US.

As for the OP. Well. I’m going to credit you all with being able to acknowledge that we don’t all think like that.

Miller, I don’t recall reading lobley’s other post that was bashing Americans. Do you have a link to educate us? If what you say is true, then it is unfortunate, because most of us are really good people (when you get past the bad beer and Carrot Top)

I took this as a person just generally ranting about American sports fans jumping on the bandwagon and being rude about it. And I’ve seen it too. But I am an American, and I have the optimistic hope that the majority of us either wouldn’t behave like that or simply don’t follow the sport enough to care either way.

I am happy to say that I’m enjoying what I have been watching, which is really the point of it all.