There always is chess boxing.
There’s a trainer in the corner! That’s unsportsmanlike!
This is certainly correct. Cheating is cheating even if you are bad at it, However, I’m seeing a lot of argument that the Astros and teams in general are now encouraged to cheat as a World Series win is worth this punishment. If you show that the cheating didn’t make much of a difference than it was certainly not worth it for the Astros or future teams.
Yes, that’s funny, but to me “The players and no one else play the game” is a fundamental principle defining games. Unless you posit that the real players in a baseball, football, or basketball game are actually the managers/coaches, and the people on the field are just pawns, in which case, the wins/losses should be in the managers’/coaches’ names rather than in the teams’ names.
Players play. Coaches and managers coach, game plan, and make decisions. Maybe we should just let players coach themselves too, coaches have no place in competition because they’re not playing the game.
Coaches are like teachers or instructors. They might play a role in practice sessions or workouts, but they should be nowhere near an actual game. The players should make their own plans and decisions, choosing among themselves a captain to lead them.
That’s your opinion and you certainly have a right to it.
But are there any professional team sports that even begin to approach this ideal?
Where are you getting your definition of “game” and what games currently meet your rigid specifications?
Or college, or high school? Team sports have coaches, who also coach during a game. It’s been that way for a very long time.
No, no one does it this way, which is the source of my discontent and my general disdain for modern team sports generally. They’re all cheating all the time.
The cheating (in my eyes) extends to substitutions. Substitutions should be allowed only in the case of injury, so no designated hitter, no relief pitchers, no pinch hitters, no pinch runners. Nine players, period.
And no platooning of offense, defense, and special teams in football. Eleven players start the game; the same eleven players stay on the field until it ends.
Acsenray, you may want to at least consider the possibility that games are creations of people, and the rules by which they are played are, not to put too fine a point on it, whatever works.
Given that essentially all team sports have in-game coaching, and everyone except you is okay with it, and it seems to work fine, perhaps you should revisit what the word “cheating” means.
While we’re at it let’s get rid of uniforms too, so we can fully enjoy the display of athletic bodies as they did in the original Olympic Games. Competing while clothed or wearing other protective equipment is cheating.
The presence or not of uniforms is irrelevant to my views on the fundamental definition of a game and players. Go ahead and play nude if you like. I wouldn’t consider that unsportsmanlike.
Also, lets get rid of the forward pass in football. And dribbling in basketball.
Keep them or not. My views are not based upon notions of tradition or ancient practice, but rather my belief about the fundamental nature of a game. A game is played by its players and no one else.
Or, you know, the coaches are part of the team. They all get championship rings if they win, not just the big boys on the field.
Your views are eccentric and you should expect to be derided when expressing them.
In your opinion, when did the modern era start and when did things closely match your ideal level of purity?
No room for a “Team of Theseus”?