MrManfrengenfrensen, well, insofar as I can recall, I never brought up the names of Arnold and Heston. Since you did however, I will state again something I’ve said on these boards several times before. I have no quarrel with any entertainer who is willing to get on board and work to affect the changes they are passionate about or want to have an influence over. If they are willing to hire on and be a spokesperson such as Heston did, or if they are willing to forego their cushy lifestyle, income and much of their fame to run for and take office in order to affect change, that’s just peachy with me. In fact I think it’s exactly what they should do. What I have a problem with is celebrities trying to use their “star power” to get impressionable people to think the way they do just be dint of their wonderfulness as a star. It’s easy and it’s cheap. It requires no down and dirty commitment on their part, no hard work, and no real sacrifice.
I would have a lot more respect for Babs or Linda or Rob if they actually ran for some office and tried to work for change that way, than by simply forking over thousands and thousands of dollars and going on television blabbing about things they know nothing about and hoping to have an effect simply because they’re so wonderful and everybody should want to be like them, which is what they’re really saying.
mhendo, you fucking putz! Between the two of us, I really doubt that I’m the moron. Nor am I a liar, you reading-impaired, mentally-challenged imbecile. If you can manage to find your way back to my original post in this thread, you’ll see I was trying to explain why so many people in general object to celebrities spouting off about politics without seeming to find other entertainers such Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. to be guilty of the same. I explained it, and my explanation related to the large number of people who find it objectionable, not just myself (although I would indeed be one of them, as I openly said).
What an utter idiot you are. Try getting the facts next time before you go spouting off, calling names and revealing your own ignorance, which is after all what we’re supposed to be fighting here.
Marley23, even though you were talking to Voyager, I will say that I also have no problem with an entertainer incorporating their beliefs into their work. That is, if Linda Ronstadt wanted to record a song singing the praises of Michael Moore, I would find it much less objectionable than I would if she were addressing a concert audience or giving a speech. People can then choose to listen to it if they want and they know in advance what they’re getting. And for some reason, there seems to be less of the know-it-all, you-should-do-it-because-I’m-so-cool/beautiful/talented/whatever type of attitude conveyed when it’s done that way. It’s a more upfront and honest way of going about it.
Apos, show me where I indicated you or anyone else should live their lives according to how I think things should be.
Bizzwire, please see above for my (oft-repeated) stance on celebrities running for office.