Since I’ve been surfing SDMB instead of writing my paper on the dating of Daniel, I might as well comment on DrFidelius’ point - which is vaguely related to my homework.
While it is true that skepticism does not preclude theism, it does require a much more flexible belief. Intelligent Christians who research Daniel for example, see the evidence for a 2nd century redaction, and wish to maintain their faith have to engage in a much more sophisticated belief structure. They have to use apotelesmatic principles if they want to continue using Daniel as pointing to the cross.
They have to accept at least partial errancy (Dan. Ch. 11 as the work of an 2nd century person who receives an inspiration on the way the world works - the fact that he gets the end wrong doesn’t invalidate the inspiration).
In essence they have to adapt and interpret their faith and heritage in the face of the evidence and reality of this world rather then trying to mold reality to fit their beliefs. While I have no doubt that DrFidelius’ faith is very real to him, and I applaud Christian skeptics who tend to be tolerant, intelligent people, I don’t personally see faith as adding anything to my worldview. Being a skeptic isn’t merely not accepting things at face value, its also being willing to accept new evidence, even if you have to throw out old viewpoints. I just don’t see NOMA as as a workable hypothesis. Faith is used as a lens to interpret the world, one which, I feel can only distort a clear view of it. From personal experience as a Christian skeptic (prior to being an secular humanist skeptic and after the Christian dogmatic stage) I was willing to accept things which challenged my faith, but it limited me in what I sought out. One doesn’t challenge the tenets of one’s faith as willingly as one might challenge a beloved mathematical conjecture or scientific thesis (although one can fall into that trap there as well).
Ok. I must be getting tired. G’nite all.
Could we hear from more Christians?
-Ben
Jenkinsfan specifically asked to hear from non-theists.
Ohh… Wait, I know what you’re refering to!
http://www.atheists-for-jesus.com/
I was raised as a Presbyterian and attended church every week. When I was still in High School, something happened; I started reading a lot more and religion began to look like superstition to me. I now consider myself an atheist, but I often use the term humanist to denote my desire to help improve the human condition.