Skeptics about the lunar landing?

I had never seen that before. Pretty cool!

Yeah, except that there aren’t any stars visible in the background, or the boom mike operator off to the side (who was zooming the camera? There were only 2 guys on the surface at any one time! You can see them both in the vid.), or the rock with a “C” on it… stuff like that. :smiley:

I’ve always told my students, “All they have to do is make you doubt reality and they have won.”

Believe it. It happened.

I don’t doubt the rocket technology. Hell, maybe a German V2 from 1941 could have made it.

But the guidance, the life support, the lunar lander, the return, all that worked. They were either extremely driven, ingenious, and lucky, or it was faked.

And you shouldn’t automatically accept what you’ve been told. Maybe you’re adopted.

funny thing is that the everyday folks - not the real tinfoil hatters, just the morons in the office - think they’re being oh so skeptical and openminded and unconventional, when in fact all they have done is watched a crappy, whiny, cod documentary on TV and swallowed it whole - hook, line, sinker, the rod, the reel, the fisherman and his boots.

I like how people today who weren’t alive in the 60s figure they know more about what they could accomplish back then than all of those people who were there when it actually happened.

You have to remember, they didn’t just up and go to the moon. The whole Mercury and Gemini programs, and a good portion of the Apollo program, was just testing the technology so that the actual moon landings could be accomplished.

Also, it all didn’t just work. There were many failures in rocket technology during the Mercury years, fatal accidents on Apollo.

If they would have launched one rocket and claimed a moon landing, I’d be skeptical. There was more, much more, to it than that.

There have been other threads and discussion about this. The controversy has gotten almost boring.

Think of it this way:

The moon landing was not some scientific breakthrough. There is nothing about it that is inexplicable. It was an engineering accomplishment. The US government threw a lot of money and resources at the project. There is nothing about the project that defies any physical or mathematical principle. The NASA engineers were given a project and figured out a way to accomplish it. The doubter are living in some self constructed delusional world. They are only exposing their own ignorance.

Everyday you see stuff like a movie on a compact disk, GPS in your car and microsurgery yet these dolts can’t see how we could sustain human life for a few days on a trip to the moon.

So the ACTUAL conspiracy isn’t faking the moon landings, it’s putting on TV documentaries that make people think that the moon landings were faked. Ahh. So is there a secret cell of hard-line communists somewhere that funds these documentaries to discredit US acheivements?

A quick question.

Were the people back here on Earth at that time, able to use their telescopes to observe the goings-on up on the moon while the landings were taking place?

I presume that the answer is “no” that the landings took place on the –literal- dark side of the moon, leading some to wonder why.

The diameter of the moon is roughly the same as the width of the United States. That’s like asking if you took out your telescope could you pick out a car somewhere in Nebraska? Maybe if you had the Hubble telescope (that didn’t exist at that time) you could have seen it. Otherwise, your sense of scale is warped.

A quick answer.

The people on Earth wouldn’t have been able to see the landers or astronauts simply because the resolution of any Earth telescope is too small. That is still true today.

I’m pretty sure the landings happened on the side facing the Earth. As you can see from the linked video, the atronauts were in sunlight so they were on the -literal- light side of the moon.

They had to be on the side facing the Earth in order for the communication signals to be transmitted. When they were on the “dark side” there was a communications blackout. It was a media event when mission control lost and then regained communications with the lunar orbiter because they were behind the moon.

With even the highest powered telescopes, the size of the moon lander would have been smaller than a grain on the highest resolution films.

True. IIRC, the Apollo 13 crew were the first humans to ever go to the side of the moon facing away from Earth, and even they didn’t land there.

Disregard my previous post. The other missions orbited the moon as well.

Anyone who seriously entertains this line of thought seriously… The lunar landings are among the most thoroughly documented events in human history.

The Holocaust is probably the most documented genocide or other mass slaughter in human history and some people doubt that. No amount of documentation rises to the level of defeating someone’s belief system.

No, it’s a bunch of morons throwing money at the unscrupulous. That has been the driving force of a lot of human history.

There is no “literal” dark side of the moon, Pink Floyd album nonwithstanding. All sides of the moon face the sun at one time or another during the lunar day. There is only, in relation to the earth, the far side of the moon — the moon always keeps the same face toward the earth.

If the astronauts had landed on the far side of the moon, it would have been impossible to maintain radio contact with them.

I’m not sure if you’re joking or if that’s your 40% side speaking, so no, the people making the documentaries aren’t engaging in conspiracy, they’re just quite good at making TV programmes to appeal to stupid people.