… because James Brown couldn’t pay the cost to be the boss, evidentally.
yeah, I would include Springsteen.
ITA with the Dylan thing–ugly, bad voice, shallow lyrics and bad harmonica playing–he must be a genius!
Guess Brando coulda been a contender, eh?
Rain Man was boring, stupid and predictable.
Fargo was pretentious, overwrought and overrated.
I agree about Seinfeld. Unfunny and uninvolving.
Herman Melville and James Joyce were enough to make unsuspecting readers vow to never go near modern fiction again.
Games:
-Diablo 2 - dismal compared to the first; no more of the claustrophobic atmosphere, inferior soundtrack, far less story and replayability despite a hell of a lot more content. Redefined ‘bloody runs,’ perhaps not for the better.
-Vice City
-Age of Empires - nine parts Warcraft + one part Civilization = complete crap.
-Heroes of Might and Magic 4 - the strategy gamer’s equivalent of Godfather 3.
Curious, you omitted “2001: A Space Odyssey”. Where does it fall in your assessment? Or “Barry Lyndon”?
The fact that so many people have mentioned The Doors really makes my day. Thank you!
My personal musical pet hate, apart from those guys, is U2.
Someone very insightful (I think it might have been Terry Practchett but I could be wrong. And sorry if I garbled the quote) said that if you’re fourteen and you don’t think Lord of the Rings is the best book ever written there’s something wrong with you. If you still think so past your twenties there’s something even more wrong with you.
The films are just awful. At any age.
Oh, just for the hell of it. Harry Potter of course. My very eloquent comment here is: bleeeeeeegh.
Is omitting Dr. Crusher and Geordi from this list really justified?
Still I love the show. Horrible plots, horrible characters, horrible dialogue - and still I could watch it all day.
I nominate: The Lion King. How this always ends up at the top of “best Disney movie” polls baffles me, as I always thought it was a HUGE jump down in creativity, music, plot, and general fun from the Great Three that preceded it (that being Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin).
Gattaca. Lord does that movie irritate me.
I do, however, really love Titanic.
Here’s a real challenge. Can we find a well-loved, critically acclaimed work that not more than one or two dopers will say bad things about? (I’m quite sure it’s impossible to find one that NO dopers will criticize, dopers being the contrary people that they are.)
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I nominate: The Lion King. How this always ends up at the top of “best Disney movie” polls baffles me, as I always thought it was a HUGE jump down in creativity, music, plot, and general fun from the Great Three that preceded it (that being Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin).QUOTE]
A slight hijack, to agree with your point about the “great 3” – probably the best string of 3 Disney movies since Snow White - Pinocchio - Fantasia. I wonder how much the dropoff after Aladdin is attributable to the death of half the song-writing team (Ashman? Mencken?). And then they produce dreck like Pocahontas and Hunchback, and the golden era is over.
The thing with Dune is that, taken in isolation, it is merely an above average pulp scifi story, nothing earth shaking. But in context with the whole Dune series, it is the finest scifi series ever written. So if you only read the first book, feel free to slaughter it as a sacred cow, but if you’ve read the whole series then it’s a glove slap and arquebusses at twenty paces for you!
I haven’t made it through them all, but I feel the opposite; a great book and a series that became less good with each book.
2001 was OK, if overrated. It’s hard for me to judge it now, seeing as time has not been kind to the SFX sequence at the end. Also I found the endless speculation as to “what it all meant” amusing since all anyone had to do was read the novel.
I’ve never seen Barry Lyndon.
The Shining had it’s moments, but so did the Ring, and Nightmare on Elm Street.
Hells yes. I’ve never understood that either. The only thing that makes me laugh is Dr. Zoidberg, and he’s almost literally a two-joke character.
-Joe
Can it really be a golden age if the ten movies before and after those three (or four… I include The Lion King) were all mildly entertaining at best, mediocre more often, and quite often atrocius? Aside from its very earliest efforts – Snow White, Cinderella, Pinnochio, etc – and that brief window in the late eighties and early nineties, Disney animated features have pretty much sucked.
Someone once started a thread about who was a better character; Bugs Bunny or Mickey Mouse. Everyone said Bugs Bunny - it was unanimous. So this proved there is one Universal Truth that nobody disputes - Bugs Bunny is Good.
My list of things I can find no redeeming qualities in that people seem to piss themselves over:
U2
Radiohead
Phish/Greatful Dead
Tool
Thomas Kincade
Shrek 1 and 2
Bruce Springstein (sp?)
The Mists of Avalon (the book, everone knows the mini-series sucked)
Lucielle Ball (in anything she was in)
Futurama
The Lord of the Rings books (the movies were alright)
John Grisham
Jim Carey
Adam Sandler
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Vincent Gallo
Sex in the City
24
and many many more
I hate Bugs Bunny. He’s cooler than Mickey but I still dislike him.
Daffy all the way.
How about something a little more broad?
Specifically, the obligatory retard/spaz/man-child/moron in pretty much any comedy?
The two that jump out most immediately are Kramer from Seinfeld and Matthew from Newsradio.
Two shows that are, IMO, very entertaining, but I just can not stand either one of those characters.
The only one that I ever liked was Harry from 3rd Rock From the Sun.
Harry (seeing snow for the first time): Aaaah! Albino brain chiggers! Everyone cover your ears!
-Joe
Everyone else loves Bugs.
You’re strange and your Mother dresses you funny.
Memo: Hereafter begin every post concerning Aes with “What’s up, Doc?”
How about all of the recent sitcoms that have the really dumb (and usually at least slightly overweight husband) who is shown to be a complete kneebiter in every show. ie. King of Queens, Jim Belushi’s show, Roseanne, Everybody loves Raymond, etc., etc.
It may be true (at least in my case), but holy crap, can’t we get another set up for a sitcom? :smack: