Smapti is Pitted

Maybe you should ask the terrorists dressing up as local police or relief workers or women in headscarves if they know what the term means.

And then explain why we should respect a “rule of war” that they don’t give a shit about.

I don’t know. I don’t need to know. It’s for the best that we not even have the capacity to discuss it in the first place.

While he’s doing that, maybe he could also ask those folks about the term “false equivalence”.

Maybe because, oh - I don’t know - your side is supposedly operating from a higher moral plane? I thought that was the big fooferah about “terrorism” in the first place, that it was an immoral way of settling international disputes.

If I may add one more search term to Steve MB’s suggestions for your perusal: “Night and Fog”.

I’m afraid that your incapacity to discuss it rationally will have to do. The rest of us are busy patching the security holes caused by the agency’s manipulations and excessive secrecy:

Luckily, we found out what’s going on behind the curtain. Maybe we found out before the NSA’s incompetence or malice (depending on whether you consider them incompetent or nefarious; as noted above, those are the only two options) gave everything away to the People’s Liberation Army hackers, the Russian Mafia, and Ghu knows who else…

Because we’re not them. Because we’re supposed to be better than them. Because “better than a bunch of murderous, hyperreligious thugs” shouldn’t be a particularly lofty goal to adhere to.

And here I was, feeling all smug. Way to bring a guy down.

For that matter, being smarter than a bunch of murderous, hyperreligious thugs shouldn’t be a particularly challenging goal. A key element of the enemy strategy is to troll the Western powers into making stupid mistakes – their leaders up to and including Osama himself have said as much – and leaders on our side who think (if that’s the right word for it) like Smapti have taken the bait hook, line, and sinker.

[QUOTE=Osama bin Laden]

October 2004 video: All that we have mentioned has made it easy for us to provoke and bait this administration. All that we have to do is to send two mujahidin to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al-Qaida, in order to make the generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic, and political losses without their achieving for it anything of note other than some benefits for their private companies.
[/QUOTE]

Still don’t see where it says those are “fundamental freedoms”.

But those words are also in the Fifth Amendment! Therefore fundamental!!!

Do you hate doctors? Do you want them to die? Because supporting perfidy, torture and similar crimes isn’t just unethical, it’s stupid. Medics and doctors on humanitarian missions are off limits only because they are not going to abuse those protections to take action against the people giving them free passage. The dumb fuckers at the CIA just threw that protection away because they thought that it was a good cover for an espionage mission that didn’t even fucking work.

“…serve the bastards right… try to steal my organs, will they?..”

Hey, Brian Williams scored an interview with Snowden and it will air this Wednesday.

Finally the debate on whether Snowden is a hero or a traitor will be settled. Tune in to find out the truth.

Eh, I’ll just wait for the results of their text-message poll.

I hate it when that happens.

This.

I’m not about to sign away or waive away any rights, freedoms, privileges, moral values, ethical values, or anything just so some pussy can pretend to feel safer. I’ve heard enough -too much- of that bullshit for the past too many years.

I’m not asking anyone to give up any rights. I’m saying that you’re asserting the existence of rights you never had in the first place.

If they want to shoot at doctors, I won’t lose any sleep when they all start dropping dead of preventable diseases.

This is an excellent plan, because we all know that diseases only make the bad people sick.

If they don’t care about their people getting sick, then I’m not going to care on their behalf.

What are these “rights I never had in the first place” of which you speak? Please be specific.

Oh, another question for Smapti, while we’re at it. As noted above, we’ve established that the NSA is either incompetent or nefarious; which is it?