Actually, it’s really easy to pinch the front of a cigarette and roll the paper until the cherry falls out and burns to ash on the pavement, and then just stick the butt in your pocket to be thrown out later.
Just in case you were wondering how you can go about doing it without specific containers.
From what I’ve gathered from the previous threads:
The one problem with smoking on the streets or in a park is what to do with the butt. I see few(if any) public ashtrays on the sidewalks, so how do all you smokers handle the problem?
When I used to smoke, and out and about, I would pinch the cig, allowing the remaining burning ash to fall and die out on the sidewalk/street, and throw the butt into a trashcan (or my backpocket if none is readily available.)
When out driving, I kept a small bottle of water in the car with a cap, and would put out my butt there, and toss the bottle in the trash when full.
edit: added driving comment
There’s plenty of time to pinch it out, we’re talking five or six seconds, tops. And that’s if you’re too clueless to know what time it is and when the bus is coming, and to plan accordingly. I’m not sure about making clothing stink, maybe… but worst comes to worst you can hold it in your hand and throw it out in a trashcan. In NYC or Austin, the two cities I walked around in while I was still smoking, there were garbage cans all over the damn place.
If you follow the history of smoking restrictions it started out as a slippery slope series of promises. We’re only restricting it on aircraft. We’re only adding restrictions at the office. We’re only adding restrictions at part of a restaurant but not bars. We’re only adding all restaurants and bars. We’re only adding restrictions outside of an office building. We’re only adding restrictions to parks.
There is no way anyone can document second hand smoke hazards associated with an open air venue.
put out the lit end and throw it in the next available trash can (cigars). Since this is not a law regarding how trash is properly disposed of its no more relevant that someone eating an apple.
People do throw butts on the ground , although some of us put them out and carry them to a trashcan. However, butt litter isn’t the reason for prohibiting smoking on beaches and in parks. I’ve seen all kinds of trash on the ground- food wrappers, soda cans, water bottles, newspapers. Those items aren’t being prohibited because they end up as litter. If someone is caught littering with a soda can, presumably they get a ticket. It’s not used as a reason to ban all food and drink from the parks and beaches.
It has nothing to do with smoke being offensive to some people- people in parks and on beaches can play any music they want and people offended by it will just have to move. Same goes for people who wear too much cologne or who haven’t bathed in too long- if I don’t like it I have to move, they aren’t thrown out.
When the no smoking laws started to apply to restaurants and bars, someone I know was very happy. Because he felt he should never have to choose - he should be able to go anywhere and do anything while also avoiding smoke. He should never be in the position of choosing restaurant B over restaurant A because A allowed smoking. He should never have to chose between going to a wedding and avoiding smoke because the catering hall allowed smoking. He should never have to pass up the first park bench and walk ten feet to the next empty one, because there is a smoker on the first one. I can only assume that if I invited him to my house for a party , he would expect me to ban smoking for the night- since he wouldn’t answer when I asked him. I think this is the motivation for a lot of the people who want to prohibit smoking.
I think that is great news, esp since the lazy New York police do not have anything better to do.
(On the other hand, it is kinda unfair to the homeless. Maybe we could exempt the homeless from this new law)
Or better yet–the homeless offend me. Let’s make it illegal to be homeless. We could fine them $100 for each occurrence of being homeless, and if they don’t pay, we could just throw them in jail!
That’s a great idea!
The difference is that, if a trashcan is readily available most people will throw their trash in it, and if confronted will look as if they know they did something wrong. Most of the smokers on the other hand will look at you as if you are crazy-a large percentage honestly believe that there is absolutely nothing wrong with tossing the remains, lit or unlit, on the ground. I’ve had a not-small percentage tell me that they do it for safety reasons(not setting the garbage on fire, but most of them consider it a part of the Right To Smoke.
Maybe I’ve gotten all spoiled in the last twenty years of gradually-increasing bans in my area, but I’ve come to realize I like smoke-free air, to the point where a smoker walking by (or someone coming in from outside having just smoked) is intrusive and unpleasant, while I would barely have noticed in my youth.
There’s your solution - strike down all smoking laws and after a while, non-smokers will stop noticing!
I’m not saying smokers don’t litter, or even that they don’t have a different attitude- although I’m not sure they do as I frequently see littering where trash cans are readily available on beaches and in parks. What I’m saying is that the beach and park smoking bans have nothing to do with the litter from smoking- some people would want smoking bans even if every smoker in NYC carried his or her own personal ashtray and no one is proposing banning other litter producing items in parks and on beaches.
Anytime I’ve seen a trash can with an ashtray built it it’s full of cigarette butts. Again, this has nothing to do with the laws enacted.
Unfortunately, that isn’t possible at the bus stops because smoking isn’t legal at the bus stops. Of course, that doesn’t slow down the smokers one bit.
Give me liberty or …
Whatever. I just wish you young uns realize what an oppressive society we in North America have become.
By the way, I breath in way more wood smoke from wood burning fireplaces . Someday I expect someone to start up a campaign to outlaw fireplaces.
They have, in my locale. There’s only certain days you’re allowed to burn on. (And I don’t live in the warm part of Oregon, either.)
Death is the remainder of that quote. And if you keep smoking you’ll get that soon enough, probably from lung cancer. The rest of us would prefer to avoid getting that from your second-hand smoke.
I doubt that, unless you are sticking your head right up the chimney.
Anyway, the smoke from burning wood does not contain all the carcinogenic additives that are in cigarette smoke. So your fireplace is much less harmful to you.
I know, right? Used to be when you’d go to a restaurant, you’d get the healthy aroma of cigarette smoke to go along with your meal. Now, all I can taste is the stupid food, what a ripoff. When I went out to bars, I was reminded of it by the fact that every stitch of clothing smelled like an ashtray, now I actually have to drink so little that I can remember the whole evening.