It says “I lost my tastebuds in a tragic accident and so now I eat kale because…why spend the money on lobster when I can’t taste the difference?”
But I still can’t wrap my mind around why the Devil would do it. Drink champagne instead of water, for the fizz. Snack on pot brownies for the high. Live off only the energy from doomed souls. Kale salad just isn’t even in the top 10, if you’re the Devil. Unless he’s just messing with us. :eek:
The American Lung Association says cigarette use amongst high school students has dropped ~41% in the past five years. Hookah use and ecigs are up by about the same but, really, how many movies show hookah smoking?
Thats really all you needed to say.
I’m not sure how this is a response to my post unless you’re suggesting that I said that that depictions on film are the only reason anybody ever does anything, which I didn’t.
Just a non sequitur. Unless Doc returns to his pitting.
DrDeth has sunk even lower than his previous raving lunacy as he sprays his insanity all over the Preacher thread. Hoping to nip it in the bud, I responded immediately to his first raving with:
DrDeth responded with the ultimate answer:
Yeah, that’s not how it works. But DrDeth is clearly immune to reasoned argument, being a complete moron and all. So the only appropriate response to this idiocy was kindly provided by Fenris:
This perfectly sums up the amount of respect DrDeth deserves.
In Hell, everybody’s forced to eat kale. The Devil does it to warn people what’s in store for them 
I don’t get the weirdness over smoking.
I know and agree the big tobacco companies acted badly for many decades. They deserved their comeuppance.
I also agree that smoking is bad for you. Full stop.
That said smoking has been a part of human history for a long, long time. Smoking is also not the only thing bad for humans that they partake in. Problem is we have tried to moralize and forbid the bad things and it has only made things provably worse (see Prohibition and the drug war for recent examples).
Since it is a part of society, like it or not, it has a place in the art we produce. The character of Jesse screams to be a hard drinking, smoking kinda guy. If Dr. Deth was claiming there is no reason for Will from Will & Grace to smoke he’d have a better case.
But Jesse Custer? C’mon…smoking absolutely fits with the character. What’s more, in the thread that spawned this one, Dr. Deth allowed that the original writer probably was not in the pocket of big tobacco and just wrote the character this way.
So why anyone would think the character of Jesse Custer should be a non-smoker in the TV show is beyond me.
Namely, painful potty breaks! :eek:
Not to speak for the good Doctor (and certainly not to agree with him) , but it seemed that the crux of his argument was not that Jesse shouldn’t be a smoker, but that Preacher was a super obscure comic that no one has ever heard of and the only reason it was being adapted was because it featured a hard smoking Minister and his equally hard smoking Vampire friend. But if big tobacco wasn’t digging up crazy obscure comics like Preacher, Hellblazer and Lucifer no one would be smoking on TV.
Because Preacher wasn’t one of the most popular and influential comics created in the last 25 years. It hasn’t been in development of some sort fairly constantly since about 1998 and no one has ever heard about it before.
Oh wait…
Yep, yep, and yep. And I think Stephen King addressed that in The Stand.
Well it seems that something good has (indirectly) come from DrDeth’s blathering (babbling? yammering?) There’s got to be a better word to describe his unique blend of idiocy and bellicosity.
Anyways, Preacher is now on my watch list. Thanks!
Can someone provide a cite that DrDeth isn’t a shill for big tobacco, driving people to smoke with his crazed blathering?
Well, let’s say you are a teenager. Right? And you want to be cool, you want to look cool and be popular and all the stuff teenagers want from life- and then you see this supercool character in an AMC show, making it look cool.
Now, I’m not saying that smoking should be excised from all media, or that TV shows should be considered a nanny, but let’s not pretend that glamourizing smoking has no consequences.
Now, this thread is full of people who seem to believe that either every single cigarette on TV is paid by big tobacco, or that none has ever been. That is the weird part here.
Seems to me such things require proof and not speculation.
That said it would not surprise me in the least that big tobacco funded some tv show or movie and placed characters in them to smoke in order to glamorize smoking.
I would likewise be surprised if there was any stuffed shirt exec at big tobacco that was plugged into comic culture enough to call up Seth Rogan and convince him to produce the The Preacher.
In one of Katherine Hepburn’s lesser known movies, Summertime (1955), she plays the part of a lonely single American woman vacationing in some European place. She has an 11-year-old street urchin boy around who runs errands for her for treats, gifts and …
… yup … cigarettes !!!
“Darling, please run fetch me today’s newspaper”
“Will you give me a cigarette?”
“Sure, here you go, now scoot …”
Deliciously offensive …
Do you really need evidence to believe in the existence of product placement? Come on.
[QUOTE=Dragnet]
Officer Bill Gannon: It’s our duty to inform you that you have the right to…
Camille: [Interrupting] Answer or not answer, get me a lawyer. I know the whole scam. You got a cigarette?
Officer Bill Gannon: You old enough to smoke?
Camille: I’m old enough to do anything, including clam up. I know my rights, fuzz, and I got a right to not talk to you. You’re wasting your time and my beauty sleep cuz I ain’t telling you nothing, not a thing about nothing. Now what about that cigarette and let me get back to that fleabag they call a cell.
[Friday gives her a a cigarette and a light]
Camille: You’ve got nice eyes - for a cop.
[She blows smoke into Friday’s face]
Friday: And I bet your mother had a loud bark.
[/QUOTE]
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Are you suggesting TV networks ran cigarette commercials free of charge … yes, there was a time in the ancient past where one could advertise cigarettes on TV. Watch a “season 1” episode (unedited) of I Love Lucy. Note the dancing packs of Pall Malls …