Smoking....YOUR humble opinion

Oh just be quiet already. Make the smoking car the last one on the train. No one has to walk through it all. That’s rather my point, why not make a simple accomodation, instead an all-out ban?

What’s unreasonable about someone opening a bar that allows smoking?

While generally I’m in favor of the bans (I’m obviously a non-smoker), all I’ve seen this do is make me have to run through a gauntlet of cigarette smoke while entering & exiting a bar, as all of the smoking patrons gather right at the bar/restaurant’s door.

And to whomever made the comment about people equating cigarette smoke to nerve gas - while I realize it was a joke, it’s really disgusting to have to run that gauntlet and smell like smoke.

VCNJ~

Easy.

It would be too inconvenient. Just as it is too inconvenient to use your car’s ashtray (much easier to flip ashes and butts out the car window) and too inconvenient to find a trashcan if you do use an ashtray (much simpler to dump the ashtray out the door onto the curb or parking lot).

The idea of a personal bubble for smokers is superfluous. You could say that smokers are already in a bubble - of personal entitlement. The people outside the bubble really don’t count.

The irony here is that some of the people most susceptible to secondhand smoke are the folks with severely diminished lung capacity due to smoking - patients with emphysema, chronic bronchitis and only part of their lungs left after surgery for cancer. Oh, those whiners! They should haul their oxygen tanks off to establishments that ban smoking and leave the smokers who are still fit enough to indulge their habit alone.

Just diagnosed another case of cancer in a smoker with a lung mass. The tumor’s already spread to a lymph node in his neck. At age 53.

Sorry to bring that up. We can now return to your regularly scheduled discussion of smokers’ rights.

I had a Vietnamese friend in high school whose parents cooked some dinners that smelled awful to my American sensibilities. There are a couple of apartments in my complex that apparently are rented by people who enjoy Vietnamese food, and whenever I walk by one of those apartments while they’re cooking dinner and recognize a smell from my old friend’s place I find it really disgusting. So far, though, I haven’t seen any measures to ban Vietnamese food and I wouldn’t support one.

What we need to solve this whole smoking problem is a closed tube system. Smoke would come out one end of the cigarette, go through the attached tube and directly into the nose or mouth of the smoker. Second hand smoke would be ejected into a compressed gas canister. Everyone wins while we give a huge boost to the tube and canister industries. :wink:

I don’t think it’s as easy as that. Apart from the fact that no one would wear those ridiculous-looking things, somehow I feel such filters would not be cheap. And if such things are even possible, why haven’t they attached them to the backs of cars? Or to the smokestacks of factories?

Another possibility would be for, not the smokers, but everyone who is bothered by the smoke (but inexplicably not by the myriad other pollutants commonly found in urban air) to get *themselves * a bubble, and quit their bitching.

When I step outside of my office, I’m hit with a blast of diesel and various restaraunt smells, both pleasant and unpleasant. On most days, there’s also construction going on, with the attendant dust and sewer odors. So you’ll pardon me if I tend to roll my eyes at your theatrical coughing at the sight of my cigarette.

I sympathize with people who have respiratory diseases that make them sensitive to cigarette smoke. But I’d greatly appreciate it if someone could explain to me why they’re *only * sensitive to cigarette smoke, and not to the previously mentioned *other * irritants that surround them.

And as for anyone who’s made the “all smokers are selfish, rude assholes” claim? Bite me. Perhaps they’re are rude to **you ** in reaction to your sanctimonious attitude, ya fucking harpies.