Sneer on Mr. Bricker. Sneer on.

[Una_Persson]

@Diogenes the Cynic

Fucking lighten up. Coulter’s masculine appearance has been a long running source of jokes on this board for years. Is this the first time you’ve ever noticed? It’s not an anti-TG joke, it’s a joke that she looks like a man in drag (clock the adam’s apple). 'lucy is far from the first to riff on that theme.

1. I hope you remember “fucking lighten up” the next time someone says anything you don’t care for. Because that quote is not in line with your posting history on this board. In fact, it’s disingenuous to the point of bizarre. Physician, heal thyself.

2. So offensive speech or personal appearance snipes are OK if it’s long-running? Or if someone isn’t the first to “riff” on it? Or if only your friends say it? Can we apply that universally? Sorry, I don’t believe in that.

3. Um, no, I don’t look at Ann Coulter and say “Hey, I’ll make a joke about her personal appearance by invoking the transgendered boogeyman in the minds of the intolerant and hateful”, sorry. I likely hate Ann Coulter as much as you and elucidator do, maybe even moreso, but for her positions and politics and tactics, not her personal apprearance. YMMV.

4. We don’t even know how elucidator meant to use the possibly offensive statement, so maybe he ought to answer before we’re treated to the usual Diogenes the Cynic SDMB theatrics. Just a thought. I’ll grant that he might have meant it completely innocently, or at least not in a way to offend. Transgendered folks have sadly been the butt of bad humour at their expense for decades or centuries, and it wouldn’t be the first time someone who truly did not hate them as a group grabbed a shopworn phrase on accident.

5. Lissen to lissener (no pun intended). I disagree with lissener on a lot of things, but at heart he’s got a good sense of “right” IMO and I like him for that. He’s making a lot of sense here and capturing what I had to say perhaps better than I said it.

[Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus]

@Brainiac4

Scylla, you’re a talented writer. But when you venture into politics, you’re just another ass. **Bricker **had the class to be disgusted when the party of his choice acted reprehensibly. You, sadly, are not following in his footsteps.

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Reading Scylla’s recent threads reminds me of what it would be like if Woody Allen or George Saunders suddenly turned into a cross between Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly. Except without the humor–just a bitter, angry conservative. I only open his threads now in the same way that I would touch a sore spot to see if it’s still sore.

Scylla, why should the gay-friendly Dems (to use your terminology) jump in for Foley? If I were gay I’d be hating Foley around now, as someone who can’t keep his (possibly virtual) dick in his pants and tars all gays to a certain extent.

[Una_Persson]

I’ll also add as a postscript that despite responding to the good Cynics’ post in-kind, I have no intention of entering a knock-down drag-out fight over this on this message board. I was surprised at the post I referenced and highlighted it for clarification. To me, clarification should end it no matter what the motivation, since if it was innocent then that’s good, and if otherwise then I don’t care to pursue it or score points off of it because what would be the point? I don’t play the partisan politics game here, and although a fiscal conservative I loathe the Bush Administration deeply. I suspect there’s infinitely more common ground between me and Diogenes and elucidator now than 5 years ago.

It’s a simple case of “did you really mean to say something like that which seemed very offensive” and anything else is immaterial and a distraction from that issue. The underlying concept actually is one that I think Diogenes the Cynic, elucidator, lissener, and probably many others would agree with me on: that Ann Coulter’s politics and debate/logic tactics are reprehensible in most, if not all things.

[DoctorJ]

Scylla’s OP demonstrates that if the GOP punditry pushes enough bullshit, no matter how transparent, they can spin their way out of just about anything. It’s much like the way a fighter plane releases chaff into the air to confuse radar.

A lot of people, like Scylla, will uncritically accept any version of the story that makes their guys look good. Unlike Scylla, most will never lay out their thoughts on the matter on a message board full of liberals, or in any other critical venue. I’d also guess that most of those who do present such views to critical audiences won’t have the intellectual honesty to back off when their facts are challenged.

This one is transparent enough that I think a lot of people are going to take their blinders off and realize that the GOP leadership is not made up of honorable statesmen with the good of the country at heart, like they’ve wanted to believe for so long. It might not make them vote Democrat, but it will sure as hell make a lot of them stay home on election day.

[Scylla]

@DoctorJ

Scylla’s OP demonstrates that if the GOP punditry pushes enough bullshit, no matter how transparent, they can spin their way out of just about anything. It’s much like the way a fighter plane releases chaff into the air to confuse radar.

A lot of people, like Scylla, will uncritically accept any version of the story that makes their guys look good.

Up until my concession I was rather impressed with the class, and humor, and absence of rancor in the way I was corrected.

Oh well.

[Frank]

@Scylla

(yes, please.)

Closed at the request of the OP.