Snl 10/23

I never said it was Simpson’s fault. It may have been the drummer’s fault, but the two guitarists definitely started playing the other song. When they heard the drums and the vocals, they switched over to Pieces, probably assuming that Ashlee would just pick up and start from there.

In any event, it was extremely trashy to rag on the band, even if it was the drummer’s fault. The guitarists were probably ad libbing as best they could.

The drummer is responsible for switching on the vocal track for lipsyncing??? Does that sound wrong to anyone else? Logisticly, I mean. He’s got to be in a certain physical position *and * he needs sticks in his hands. Why wouldn’t a sound tech or guitar tech or *somebody who didn’t have to be perfoming live * do it?

The drummer is usually the one who plays the downbeat. All other timing follows from him.

:rolleyes: I have really bad acid reflux and trust me, it does not make you lose your voice. Chase a nexium with a big swig of mylanta and suck it up, chicka. Did you think “being famous” was free money?

Nick Hexum has done full shows with strep-throat.

Well, I’ve had acid reflux on occasion and then accidentally breathed some of the acid into my lungs triggering a huge and raucous amount of coughing. A couple of times it left my vocal chords shredded (or at least it felt that way) and my voice sounded decidedly weird for several hours – sort of like I had breathed helium only with my voice still in a deeper register.

I’ve seen Ashlee’s show, and she does seem to have real problems with losing her voice. On her show, she went to a voice doctor that told her she has severe acid reflux, and she also had some type of nodule on her vocal cords. Probably because of the way she strains it when she sings.

I liked her better as a blonde.

I got a chuckle this morning out of Wil Wheaton’s blog calling her Ashlee Vanilee, but he was more critical of SNL even having the little poptart on since SNL started out as counterculture not flavor-of-the-month. He quoted another blogger as saying that that was SNL’s jump the shark moment. I don’t know, I think they may have done that long ago. Has Paris Hilton been on yet? Surely, that would signal the very end.
Re: Acid reflux. I think if they were making up an excuse they’d keep it a simple case of laryngitis.

I also suffer from acid reflux and I have had it make it to the back of my throat and trigger a coughing fit only rarely. I think most suffers know that when you start to feel the burn, you do not lay down, many times I have attempted to sleep either sitting up in a chair or propped up by many pillows to keep the acid down by gravity. You usually also start swilling the mylanta (straight out of the bottle, spoons are for wussies) to keep the acid from rising.

I think one would have to have it really bad in order to lose their voice and cause their vocal cords to swell requiring a steroid injection to bring down the swelling. So if this 19 year old is having it that bad then maybe she should slow down on the stressful pace and stop trying to shove herself down the public’s throat so hard. Getting steroid injections just so she can perform is also not a good practice for long term. So this young kid who started out as an actress is risking her instrument, her voice, and her health for a short singing career just to squeeze as much as she can out of her current popularity. We know her singing career will be short whether she loses her voice or not because she just can’t sing and soon her adoring teen fans will realize it or tire of her for the new flavor of the month.

So who’s to blame? Is she pushing herself like this to compete with her big sister or because she is deluded enough to think she has the talent or is it the father doing all the pushing? He got big bucks from Jessica, why not try for more with Ashlee.

Paris Hilton was on Weekend Update last season doing a salacious “interview” with Jimmy Fallon: “So, is it difficult to get inside the Paris Hilton? If I were to visit the Paris Hilton, do you think I could go in the rear entrance?”

I went to bed after Weekend Update, so I missed Ms. Simpson’s little faux pas, but honestly, if anyone really thinks that there has never been lip syncing on SNL before, well, I envy your innocent and guile-free view of the world.

I can’t speak for anyone else in the thread, but I’m not sure anyone here is surprised by this, they (we) are just enjoying the fact that she was caught. SNL ceased being a showcase for musical talent a loooooooong time ago and there has been plenty of lip syncing on the show. Like you said, this is nothing new.

I don’t buy the fact that she was using a guide vocal at all. Normally, I skip the musical guest, because they all suck, but I recall watching the first song specifically to see if she was lip syncing. There was no hint of a real voice along with a voice track. At times, she didn’t even sync up with the music completely. So that was no guide vocal, that was straight-up lip syncing.

What is has done is start people talking about something that generally isn’t spoken about openly. I say that it’s about time people were outraged by this type of thing. People like Ashlee Simpson shouldn’t be given a stage to “perform” on. Why don’t they have musical guests that sing and play live? The “artists” that lip sync usually have the excuse that they can’t sing and dance at the same time. Well, stop dancing so much and just sing!

It’s so frustrating to see where the music industry has been going in the past 5-10 years and it’s getting worse. Yes, there may be a market for this kind of pre-packaged pop, but I think it’s because shoved in kids’ faces. I don’t listen to Top 40 music or Top 40 radio stations, yet somehow, I know a lot of Top 40 songs. That’s great marketing! It’s nearly unavoidable, if you’re a child/teenager. Young kids often don’t know where to look for an alternative to what they’re listening to, so they stick with what’s readily available. They are even told that a band is alternative (Linkin Park, Good Charlotte), so they believe it and end up thinking they are listening to alternative music, when it’s just more pre-packaged crap, marketed in a way to make the kids think they’re listening to punk music.

Sorry for the rambling, this issue really bugs me.

I can only assume that it was live as I’m sure a backing track to lip-sync to wouldn’t sound that freakin’ awful. She was out of tune and occasionally even off the beat too.
14:59.30…

::gets down on knees and prays:: I hope, I hope, I hope!

I might be stupid, and I might be showing it here, but what’s that time mean?

15 minutes of fame countdown.

Well, if anyone remembers when the Go-Go’s first performed on SNL, it was a trainwreck. They were so flat, it sounded like they were all singing in the wrong keys. They could have used a guide vocal. Or a sound studio with the magickal voice retuning button.

Don’t count on seeing this flub in repeats. I strongly suspect that SNL cuts in the taped rehearsals into their repeats. (I’ve come to this conclusion when, watching a repeat, I was waiting for a certain line, and it didn’t come, and I said to myself, “Hey, that’s not how the skit went when aired!” Also, they either add a laugh track or show the rehearsal version of some skits, since, on repeat, skits that bombed are suddenly found hilarious by the audience.)

Peace.

Just a thought, but if you have a lot of problems singing, maybe you shouldn’t be…A SINGER.

Turns out 60 minuets was there doing a piece on SNL. They caught the whole thing, and it will be a story (I think airing Oct 31)

Brian

60 Minuets? Is that a show about dance? How did they know Ashlee would do that little jig?

CBS has a similarly themed show, “48 Horas.”

:smiley:

If only they could come up with something that funny on SNL consistently.

Anybody watching the show tonight (10-30)? They’ve been skewering Ashlee ever since the opening segment. (Of course it’s a bit hypocritical since they were fully in the know.)